Originally posted by DABIGRAGU
Free the Long Form!
As of yet the ONLY one that exists IS this Kenyan BC, prove it wrong.
Originally posted by evil incarnate
Which fake Kenyan one are you talking about?
There's the problem.
They refuse to recognize a state-issued document that is good enough for any other citizen.
A raised seal:
A certificate number that can be cross-referenced by the State of Hawaii's vital records database:
A signature stamp, which is valid for EVERY OTHER citizen:
A statement from the State of Hawaii's health director.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
And that's in addtition to this earlier statement:
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,"
And a statement by the Republican governor of Hawaii:
You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it's, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It's been established. He was born here.
Despite all that, these people will happily believe a scan of a document purported to be from Kenya.
A document that has no supporting evidence and no way to verify its authenticity.
Oh, and the Kenyan document has a raised seal...one that says "SEAL" in the middle. Yep - looks totally legit.
And, if we are to believe the source, he went to a Third-World country and paid a bribe to get it, which somehow means it can't be a forgery.
If I lived in a country where the gross national income is $315 and some idiot came in with a few grand in American dollars, I wouldn't hesitate grab a blank form, put it in a typewriter and type in whatever the hell he wants. Make Malcolm X Obama's father? Give me two seconds. You want to claim Hitler was born in Mombasa? No problem.
But somehow, that possibility doesn't cross their minds. Screw the government officials who vouch for his Hawaiian birth - they NEED to believe this, so they do.
From the link in the OP:
While inside of the hospital I presented a member of the hospital’s administrative staff with $5000 US dollars, cash. I set the money down in front of them and told them that the money was theirs if they could bring me a certified copy of US President Barack Obama’s original hospital birth record. I stipulated that I was only allotting a small window of time for the staff member to fetch me the document. This member of the administrative staff returned, within the allotted time, with the certified copy of Obama’s original hospital birth record. I am not, at this time, disclosing to the public the specific time allotment. However, I can tell you that the time allotment was less than 45 minutes. The significance of the time allotment was to eliminate any possibility that the hospital’s staff (again seeing dollar signs) would have sufficient time to create a forged or fake document.
45 minutes is PLENTY of time for an online search for basic information on Obama and his family.
The time frame would explain why Obama's father doesn't have a DOB on the document, only the year. They couldn't find that information online in a timely fashion. Look at Obama Sr.'s wiki:
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936 − 24 November 1982)
No DOB there. Thus, no DOB on the fake certificate.
So, they're expecting us to believe that BHO Sr wasn't at the hospital for his son's birth (possible) and that his wife didn't know his birthday (doubtful).