Saudi woman beats up religious police officer who stopped her for walking with a man

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Wow, putting it in perspective like that really makes you wonder... is it really 2010?

The only thing that makes me wonder in regard to this issue, is how anyone can say America (as a nation) does anything BECAUSE of human rights violations.

We as a nation, our government, could care less about human rights. Not abroad, and not at home, unless they HAVE to care, (because of our Constitution) or because it suits them to care, such as when they use violations of human rights as excuses to promote their economic goals by overturning other governments.

Our great friendship with Saudi Arabia is more proof than anyone should need that we care neither about terrorism, or human rights. We use them as excuses only. Every war we fight is fought for economic reasons, and economic reasons that do not serve all of us as a people, but a few of us at the expense of the people.

We should be ashamed of ourselves for doing business with countries that treat half its human population as virtual slaves or domestic animals.

Good for her.

I understand that, in the context of her culture, the laws may be designed to "protect" her virtue and keep her honor intact.

But I'm a western woman and I say "It's about time."

Originally posted by Intelearthling
I fear nothing and about homosexuals and/or muslims conquering the planet? Is this a joke on your part? This won't never happen. Not this year or in a million years.

Yeah totally, I mean, gays can't reproduce, so how could they ever take over the planet? Before anyone asks, I'm not anti-gay until they start flaunting it in my face. Then I'm very anti-gay. In fact, I'm anti-protesters in general.

I think if this chick had the ovaries to hit a policeman in a nation like Saudi Arabia, then she had the ovaries to decide to leave the country and start over somewhere that she would have more freedom. That's my only issue with this. It doesn't make sense that she essentially threw her life away when there were many other options open to her.

Before you start spouting how she didn't have options, I think it takes a hell of a lot more guts to flagrantly break a law and strike a policeman than it does to flee the country, particularly if the people around her (such as family) were accepting enough to allow her to go out with her boyfriend without an escort.

All in all, I don't think I can condone her actions. It'd be nice if the woman-oppressing back-asswards nations in the middle east would change their policies, but feeding their sadism with another target isn't going to do it. But hey, at least they're not in sub-Saharan Africa, where women get gang-raped daily until their organs syzygy and their reproductive and GI tracts either fuse together or become so hemorrhagic or infected that they die.

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What laws protected this individual?

A Saudi Judge Reject Annulment for 8 year old girl married to 46 year old Saudi Man

Saudi judge has refused for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man, a relative of the girl told CNN.

The most recent ruling, in which the judge upheld his original verdict, was handed down Saturday in the Saudi city of Onaiza, where late last year the same judge rejected a petition from the girl's mother, who was seeking a divorce for her daughter.

Originally posted by prionace glauca
with many more Indians now able to enjoy what they couldn't before in luxuries, eventually the poverty situation will start to improve though never obliterated.

Actually what you are describing right here is a main cause of inflation in India
A boom of IT hubs and now many people ranging from engineers to students are now able to buy luxuries they weren't able to afford before.
This is exactly what caused inflation, because it happened too fast.

As soon as those millions of students started to buy things they couldn't afford before.....DAILY... then the average low-income family found themselves in the midst of higher prices for rice, flour, beans/lentils, and many other ingredients.

The only way to alleviate this is to create half-shifts. Instead of one person for a full shift, give it to 2 people for half-shifts. This way you are spreading the wealth and it will help calm inflation down. An overpopulated country can very much strive economically, but as long as they realize it's a different economy.

Originally posted by Intelearthling
Evil is just the opinion/judgement you've place upon Bush/Cheney and not relevant to this topic.

It IS relevant to your post.
It's about not generalizing. And it's not opinion, mass murder being evil is not an opinion, it's fact.

Originally posted by Intelearthling
Maybe you can explain to me exactly when I was in this situation you're mentioning.

What I meant by this is again regarding generalization.
You said some defend muslims and then criticize things like this.
If bush/cheney is evil it doesn't mean that all americans are evil.
That's what I meant.

And as far as my comment about homosexuality I mentioned that because you were talking about man and woman side by side.

Well!

One thing is certain: Her head will be on a platter before we know it.

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Well put.

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This woman essentially threw away what little freedom she had. It's too bad that the laws of Saudi Arabia are so demeaning to women and the only reason that they can get by with these laws is the ruling family controls a large portion of the world's oil reserves.

I'm willing to bet that if cheaper and abundant energy sources could be developed thus breaking industrialized nations from dependency on OPEC, Saudi Arabia's revenues will diminish and be pushed into further isolation from the world.

Revolutions are the direct products of human suffering. One is a very powerful number. It only takes one action to change the course of history. This woman may have started something that is irreversable for the future of Saudi Arabia.

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Originally posted by skepticantiseptic

Don't sink to calling names like "ragheaded". It is a derogatory term that spans more religions than one, stay away from generalizations.


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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
And as far as my comment about homosexuality I mentioned that because you were talking about man and woman side by side.

I was just acknowledging the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia.

In the US and a large part of the developed nations, men and women walk down the street side by side, talk, laugh and enjoy each others company.

I'm just thankful I live in a nation where I can hold my wifes hand as we stroll in a park or in the mall. I have a great deal of respect for my wife and can't think of how any society can treat women like property or second rate objects.

Hell. Yes.

This woman is my new hero.

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I call it like I see it.

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Good for her - let's hope this is a beginning of a trend.


The Saudi religious police are an absolute disgrace to humanity.

During a school fire in Mecca in March they reportedly drove back girls who tried to escape without wearing headscarves, and prevented male rescuers from entering the building on the grounds that they would be "mixing" with the opposite sex. Fourteen girls died in the blaze.

Yesterday Amnesty International was sceptical about the training programme. "Saudi Arabia's religious police have an appalling record of brutality and discrimination going far beyond failings with interpersonal skills," a spokesman said. "Their track record includes making violent and arbitrary arrests, subjecting women in particular to taunts and vicious beatings, and lashing out at people taken into detention.

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Excellent. It's about time the women fought back against the Mutawa. I hated those green-jacketed Gestapo-for-God when I was there.

We'll see if the "human rights" activists of the world are willing to put their money where their mouths are.

Originally posted by skepticantiseptic

Thank goodness you're not serious.

Otherwise, I really have no hope in our country.


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Good for her! Hope she doesn't get imprisoned or killed.

Damn backwards ass religionist...

The people of Saudi Arabia should unite and follow that stoic womans example by rebelling against the unjust overly pious authority that governs their every day lives.