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HMMmmm that is a very interesting concept. But I think you CAN train the young to be free or not free.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I KNOW I am free!
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Though once again, where God is concerned who does speak for him, if he does not speak himself, and before you answer, think long and hard because in reality I just might be!
Originally posted by Ost33
We all are still talkers, still talk and talk about facts straight in our faces, but we still just talk about it.
I wish it were possible to train people to be free, but the reality is that all you can do is more or less enslave them to a broader set of constructs and parameters.
....People don't want to be free they want to be safe and secure, and it's the pursuit of that, that usually does end up enslaving them to someone or something.
Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
A fearful population is much much easier to manage.
They want to lead the world into a one world government but my fear is, did they planned to keep a 7 billion world population in their secret agenda or only 500 million...
Baby DNA in Government Database?
.....They questioned their pediatrician regarding the access he had to their child’s genetic information. He told them that it was normal for baby DNA samples to be taken from new borns and tested to see whether the child was genetically healthy or not and to know whether there were any genetic predispositions. Moreover, the couple was shocked to find out, these tests are obligatory and are not necessarily carried out with the parent’s consent. In Florida baby DNA is stored in genetic archives for an indefinite period and other states also do this.
The Long Road of Eugenics: From Rockefeller to Roe v. Wade
...More than 30 years after Roe and 60 years after the Holocaust, the fact that eugenic theory has been an important basis for U.S. policy on reproductive rights continues to have global implications....
...U.S. abortion policy is visible in the American Eugenics Society’s 1956 membership records, which reveal that its members included a Planned Parenthood founder, Margaret Sanger, and at least two of its presidents, William Vogt and Alan Guttmacher.10 This fact alone ought to give abortionrights advocates second thoughts about their pro-choice politics: The AES had an ugly history of multiple ties to prominent Nazis in Germany, and its members even assisted Hitler in crafting the 1933 German sterilization laws...
...The AES lobbied, with equal success, for involuntary-sterilization laws in the U.S., which were to claim an estimated 63,000 victims.21 The laws were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1927 case of Buck v. Bell,22 which was cited in Roe....
Justice Harry A. Blackmun’s 1973 opinion in Roe is traceable to eugenics through his direct and indirect citations of works by members of the British and American eugenics societies. Among the other authorities he cited were lower federal court cases that expressly invoked overpopulation as a basis for legalizing abortion; projects and organizations tinged with eugenics, including the Rockefellers’ Kinsey-based Model Penal Code and the American Public Health Association, which was on record in favor of abortion as a form of population control...
In terms of U.S. public policy—military and foreign affairs, economics, health care, education, social welfare, commerce, and science—the aftereffects of Roe are visible everywhere. The central institution that has acted in opposition to the eugenicists has been the Catholic Church: For a century, the Catholic hierarchy has often been the lone organizational voice denouncing the enactment of eugenic measures, including restrictive immigration laws, sterilization laws, and systems under which the government delivers birth control and abortion.25
Politicians in both political parties have often aligned themselves with a host of eugenic strategies—including human-embryo exploitation (nicknamed embryonic-stem-cell research), trafficking in fetal body parts, and euthanasia.26 In doing so, they have aligned themselves with one of America’s most important dynasties: Indeed, one can ask whether Roe in America, or the Holocaust in Germany, could have happened at all, were it not for the Rockefeller trusts.
Rockefeller money funded eugenic scientists decades before Hitler put eugenic theories into practice. After Pearl Harbor, the Rockefellers’ Standard Oil was still so heavily intertwined with Hitler’s powerhouse chemical concern, I. G. Farben, that in 1942 the antitrust section of the Justice Department filed criminal charges against both companies and their officers.
...Holdren has co-authored works in the past that called for a campaign to “de-develop the United States” and said people need to eventually face up to a “world of zero net physical growth.” He also co-authored a passage that said:
“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect.”
“How Goldman Sachs Gambled on Starving the World’s Poor – And Won,”
Goldman … came up with this idea of the commodity index fund, which really was a way for them to accumulate huge piles of cash for themselves …. Instead of a buy-and-sell order, like everybody does in these markets, they just started buying. It’s called “going long.” They started going long on wheat futures …. And every time one of these contracts came due, they would do something called “rolling it over” into the next contract …. And they kept on buying and buying and buying and buying and accumulating this historically unprecedented pile of long-only wheat futures. And this accumulation created a very odd phenomenon in the market. It’s called a “demand shock.” Usually prices go up because supply is low …. In this case, Goldman and the other banks had introduced this completely unnatural and artificial demand to buy wheat, and that then set the price up …. [H]ard red wheat generally trades between $3 and $6 per sixty-pound bushel. It went up to $12, then $15, then $18. Then it broke $20. And on February 25th, 2008, hard red spring futures settled at $25 per bushel …. [T]he irony here is that in 2008, it was the greatest wheat-producing year in world history....
....Suddenly, in the spring of 2008, food prices fell to previous levels, as if by magic. Jean Ziegler, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, has called this “a silent mass murder”, entirely due to “man-made actions.”
[What was actually done]
...Let’s say … you want me to invest for you in the wheat market. You give me a hundred bucks …. [W]hat I should be doing is putting a hundred bucks in the wheat markets. But I don’t have to do that. All I have to do is put $5 in …. And with that $5, I can hold your hundred-dollar position. Well, now I’ve got ninety-five of your dollars …. [W]hat Goldman did with hundreds of billions of dollars, and what all these banks did with hundreds of billions of dollars, is they put them in the most conservative investments conceivable. They put it in T-bills …. [N]ow that you have hundreds of billions of dollars in T-bills, you can leverage that into trillions of dollars …. And then they take that trillion dollars, they give it to their day traders, and they say, “Go at it, guys. Do whatever is most lucrative today.” And so, as billions of people starve, they use that money to make billions of dollars for themselves....[/v]
Well I'm out of work, I'm out of hope
What should be of thee I spoke
Good times for the undeserved And bad times for the ones who work
Poor man, rich man, blind man, dead man
Hoped for more than they had all planned
Just then they suffered a serious blow As the real world cuts the line they hold
Nobody said it would be fair
They warned you before you went out there
There's always a chance to get restarted To a new world, new life,
scarred but smarter
The music of Athens, Georgia, includes a wide variety of popular music and was an important part of the early evolution of alternative rock and New Wave. The city is well known as the home of chart-topping bands like R.E.M. and The B-52s, and several long-time indie rock groups. Athens hosts the Athens Symphony Orchestra and other music institutions, as well as prominent local music media, such as the college radio station WUOG. Much of the modern Athens music scene is based around students from the large University of Georgia campus in the city.
The University sponsors Western classical performances and groups specializing in other styles. Athens became a center for music in the region during the Civil War and gained further fame in the early twentieth century with the founding of the Morton Theatre, which was a major touring destination for African American performers. The city's local rock music scene can be traced to the 1950s, with live music at Allen's Hamburgers in Normaltown. International attention came in the 1970's when the B-52's began releasing the first of several best-selling recordings.
Athens-based rock bands have performed in a wide array of styles, and the city has never had a characteristic style of rock; most of the bands have been united only in their quirky and iconoclastic image. Music author Richie Unterberger describes the town as an unlikely center for musical development, as a "sleepy [place where] it's difficult to imagine anyone working up a sweat, let alone playing rock music." The success of Athens' local bands is apocryphally attributed to "something in the water." The contributions of Athens to rock, country music, and bluegrass have earned it the nickname "the Liverpool of the South", and the city is known as a birthplace for both modern alternative rock and New Wave music. Athens was home to the first and most famous college music scene in the country, beginning in the 1970s.The formation of local bands like the B-52s, Ravenstone, Pylon, Widespread Panic, Indigo Girls, Love Tractor, the Georgia Satellites, and R.E.M. had brought Athens rock to national attention by 1980. Also the singer-songwriter Conor Oberst of the band Bright Eyes has released a song called 'Southern State' on the album Motion Sickness which story takes place in Athens as he mentions in the intro.
There is the moral of all human tales; 'This but the same reheasal of the past.. First Freedom, and then Glory: when that fails... Wealth, vice, corruption.
Shattered windows and the sound of drums... People couldn't believe what I'd become...Revolutionaries wait For my head on a silver plate... Just a puppet on a lonely string... Oh who would ever want to be king?... I hear Jerusalem bells a ringing... Roman Cavalry choirs are singing... Be my mirror, my sword and shield... My missionaries in a foreign field... For some reason I can't explain... I know Saint Peter won't call my name... Never an honest word... But that was when I ruled the world