National Healthcare Will Require National RFID Chips ...placed into the skin?

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
You are aware that devices can have multiple purposes?

Why invent a knife if not to kill someone? Oh wait you could also use it to cook with. Or you could use it to make a boat or a spear.

lmfao

I would love to see an RFID chip
cook me breakfast or use it to
start my boat motor or even scale
my fish.

Hell if it did all that I might buy 2 of them.

But they don't have any other purpose
other than designed, which is

a breech of privacy

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
The US govt has all this tech but how successful have they been at winning wars?

lil brother
this isn't about winning or losing a war

it is about occupation of territories to
gather resources that don't belong to them.
The longer they stay, the more money they make
and the more resources they steal.

If they wanted to win, they could turn Afgh and Iraq
into a nuclear parking lot, but it's not about winning
in war. It's all about winning in MONEY !!!!

reply to post by WhiteDevil013

So if this thing can store and send out information, wont that also make it MUCH easier to usher in a one world currency, as it could eventually be used to store financial data, allowing people to make purchases etc? Essentially eliminating identity theft?

Also, would this mean they could also make it like Lo-Jack for humans? They could claim they need it to track convicts, pedophiles, people on house arrest, but in reality they could track criminals and the innocent alike.

Or am I jumping to conclusions here?

Same conclusions I came to - thanks for saving me the typing. But don't forget to add in how all this will keep people SAFE and be GOOD for the US.

peace

I haven't read all the posts, so hopefully someone else has already said this, but...

You're jumping at shadows on this. All the entry says, when in it's context, is that IF such a device is developed, it must be registered with the government.

Nothing more.

Originally posted by Kaploink

I did a quick search and it appears pacemakers are class II devices. A RFID chip would not fall under that description. As it's not life sustaining or supporting.

Oh but it will be.... but it will be.....

sorry I had to say it for the lulz.

Honestly the language in the entire health care bill is garbage. I'm not one for crying wolf, but when they're taxing tanning salon visits I wouldn't call it a stretch for their intent of these sections to be RFID or something similar.

Just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
Why do you think Obama signed the Health Care bill with 22 different colored pens?

It's a Skull and Bones thing.

322 is the symbolism for Skull and Bones.

Health Care signed into law on March 22 (3/22)

Obama used 22 colored pens.

But... it was signed on March 23? Does that change the theory?


Your claim about 22 pens is true though... The official explanation is that he'll have more pens to hand out as keepsakes that way...
www.labnol.org...

reply to post by Unity_99


Wow. Finally. Someone with eyes that are truly wide enough to see. You've intriuged me enough that I may even make the effort to dig a bit deeper.

As far as the topic at hand, I would have to say that given the pros and cons to what is and isn't possible as well as what perspective we're all speaking from, I can't say that it is illogical to conclude this to be true, nor can I say that it IS true.

We have to remember that the government is the Dungeon Master here, and they've already proven themselves to be masters of manipulation. They control a very large amount of what we see. For all we know, this whole RFID chip, IBM thing could be just another distraction to shroud true intentions. They've done it before. And at the same time, it could be completely innocent. and we will never know.

In a game of chess, say one player decides he's allowed to hide the position of his peices, how do you have any foresight of his next move? He could just give you an idea or glimpse of his "next move" and throw you right off because ignorance has been used against you.

My point is, none of us will probably find the answers until the scenario that detirmines the outcome presents itself.

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Why has this become almost a debate? We need to remember that we're ALL ignorant to what is being planned, none of us can actually say this is the "Mark of beast" nor can we say it's just a scenario that people are becoming redundantly concerned over. If people DIDN'T get "paranoid" over possible threats, than we'd be as vunerable to corruption like a lemming is to a cliff.
Keep an open mind people.



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Originally posted by MrXYZ
This is what you get when people who are not used to decipher such legal text are trying to do anyway.

What this section of the bill actually does is allow the Secretary of Health ato "establish a national medical device registry to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data” on Class III medical devices and all “implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining” Class II medical devices that may be used on certain patients. Note, that not EVERYONE has to get an implant. So it establishes a registry designed to gather data on the effectiveness and safety of medical devices.

It's important to know what these different classes of medical devices are. The FDA has split up all medical devices used on patients into 3 classes according to their potential to harm patients. Class I devices include things like tongue depressors, latex gloves and handheld surgical instruments. They they don't require a lot of FDA control. Class II devices are a little more complicated, but not enough to warrant an over the top FDA oversight. They include things like wheelchairs, surgical needles and x-ray machines. Class III devices require the most FDA oversight, including premarket testing and approval. They include things like implantable pacemakers, silicone breast implants, and replacement heart valves.

It doesn't state you will be forced to get an implant!!

Don't just spread fear like that without understanding the context

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You're just a disinfo government shill agent who has his greedy fingers in the honey !!!!


It's the mark of the beast, or else !!!!



People are so afraid of their own shadows that everything is anything and anything is possible... the possibilities are endless, and so is the paranoia.

Next week, it'll be something else.

Good post, Star for you!

Originally posted by Emerald The Paradigm
Why do you think Obama signed the Health Care bill with 22 different colored pens?

It's a Skull and Bones thing.

322 is the symbolism for Skull and Bones.

Health Care signed into law on March 22 (3/22)

Obama used 22 colored pens.

Do the math.

It's all leading to a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

This isn't a "conspiracy". This is Fact what they are doing.

They are creating two classes: The Elite and Servants, and that's if you have the privilege to live to serve as a Servant from their upcoming wars.

Lol the "Do the math." part made me rofl.



Satans at the door, throwing fire and brimstone at angels, and unless you count your chickens before they hatch, you'll never get out of the rabbt hole Neo. Take the blue pill and kiss the sky, spiderpig...

reply to post by MrXYZ


If you read the requirements of the healthcare bill, you will find by PROXY they will force you to be chipped, if in fact they leave that requirement in. The reason being, you WILL either get healthcare coverage, or literally be TAXED TO DEATH!

As for FDA meanings on classification...since when have THEY ever been a straight-shooter? I'm still pissed they took VIOXX off the market for supposed 'safety reasons'. It had the same adverse reactions as ANY birth control pill, but since it's not got properties which make it suitable for eugenics....and it was scheduled to be made available in generic form.
Of COURSE it had to go!

I work as an orderly in a hospital in Michigan. We just went to electronic records and I tell you the truth; The computers are set up to start reading RFID tags. There is a separate scanner for barcodes, but this is a button that you push on the handle of the tabletpc that reads nearby rfid, except there aren't any chips to read yet....

The chips will probably never be Mandated, but eventually it will be so inconvenient to not have one. Add to that 24 hours a day of propaganda through internet and tv ads as well as product placement in "House".

Excellent post. I will not let them inject an RFID in my body. When do we stand up as a society and say enough is enough. The very people that tested the RFID chips years ago stated they caused tumors and cancer. Even going so far as to say they would not let their families be injected with the RFID.

Chip Implants Linked to Animal Tumors

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A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats.

"The transponders were the cause of the tumors," said Keith Johnson, a retired toxicologic pathologist, explaining in a phone interview the findings of a 1996 study he led at the Dow Chemical Co. in Midland, Mich.

Leading cancer specialists reviewed the research for The Associated Press and, while cautioning that animal test results do not necessarily apply to humans, said the findings troubled them. Some said they would not allow family members to receive implants, and all urged further research before the glass-encased transponders are widely implanted in people

To date, about 2,000 of the so-called radio frequency identification, or RFID, devices have been implanted in humans worldwide, according to VeriChip Corp. The company, which sees a target market of 45 million Americans for its medical monitoring chips, insists the devices are safe, as does its parent company, Applied Digital Solutions, of Delray Beach, Fla

By TODD LEWAN
The Associated Press
Saturday, September 8, 2007; 2:04 PM

www.washingtonpost.com...

This article was written in 2007 and already there were 2000 people with the RFID chips, PROVEN to cause cancer and tumors in lab testing, and the major scientist and health professionals were troubled by the findings of RFID implants and would not ever alow their families to receive one.

What's that old saying? If the rewards out weigh the costs don't fix it. Do you really think they found a solution to this problem in the last 3 years? I highly doubt it. This company is lining itself up to becoming outragously profitable by lobbying for the RFID chips to be used in our health care systems (Or should I say our Nations Healthcare System), our military, for security, and financial transactions. VeriChip Corp is in line to becoming a huge monopoly, all is has to do is lobby a few strong government members to enforce regulations and they're off to the races.

Final thought

I wonder how many government members are holding stock in VeriChip?








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Originally posted by BrianInRI
reply to post by iamcamouflage

 

Who in the world thought that the Patriot Act would be used against Americans who believe in The Constitution, are veterans of wars or are anti-one world government?
Nothing that our gov't does is to make for a better society. This bill will be used against the American public in the future in order to tag 'em and bag'em.
It's my personal opinion and after seeing all of the evidence and researching myself for the last 2 yrs. I believe it is coming to a town near you.

Agreed - I think it's been on its way for a few thousand years but more specifically, these past 10.

It is getting kinda skeery on Planet Earth nowadays.

Haven't read all the posts, just replying to the OP here...

It doesn't look like it requires the implantation of RFID chips, but if they are implanted it is required that they be registered. This lays the groundwork for things that many others have already mentioned.

This will make the "universal healthcare" and one world currency much easier to bring to a reality, especially with the US dollar quickly disappearing into the background.

I have heard stories of infants being implanted with these chips in their heels before they left the hospital without the knowledge or permission of the parents.

The RFID chip isnt the mark of the beast itself, but it sure looks like the groundwork for it. There is another post here on ATS that somewhat shows why people are going to line up for it, because it will make everything so convenient, but will eventually be mandatory.

Just my thoughts...

reply to post by Jessicamsa


For what it's worth, last summer there was a caller into the Coast to Coast Show, he was a former Green Beret. He stated that before he was separated from the Army he had flown a security detail as an escort with others from Brussels to Fort Leavenworth with a cargo plane loaded with pallets of RFID Chips to be stored there. He stated that from what little he learned that evidently Brussels is know to be one of the worlds largest producers of these chips. He also said he didn't know much more than that other than he and the rest of the detail were ordered to keep their mouths shut. The guy sounded pretty convincing to me, as in usual form George Noory failed to keep pressing more questions at the guy.

One thing people fail to realize is the Health Bill could be very vague and broad on RFID Chips so as not to cause uproar. The other thing people fail to realize is we have relinquished many of our Rights in this Bill. They can do whatever they want and we have No Recourse, we cannot appeal, we cannot take them to Court. In my opinion this Bill puts one of the final screws in the coffin with regards to our Freedom.

reply to post by Boomer1941


Boom, you have a point. It is apparent to me that this is just a "next phase" to gently nudge the general public to accept their "norm", so as to become politically correct for the coming institution of The New World Order. The "Amero" moneys have already been made? Is that true?

I dug the following up just a few minutes ago from archives, tested neural implants forecasted for 2020. What would be a precursor for neural implants?

» The TinWiki » TinWiki: 2020 Neural Chip Implant
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I also suggest researching the crap out of blue beam technology. Realize also that Morgellons sufferers have evidence aplenty regarding silicon/wiring growing from them and observation claims a Hive Mentality among sufferers (Arizona Sky Watch / California Sky Watch for good background). ELF, VLF towers work at a frequency mimicing that of the human brain (4 gz I believe). Look up nanotechnology on Youtube to see what is possible, even investigate the capabilities of on-line nano-research companies.

Make the connection also between Maitreya on the SHARE international site
who promote the theosophical agendas of Bailey/Blavatsky and have Lucis Trust HQ in GENEVA. You would be amazed how tied in this is with the occult (thank you Tom Horn). To save you a heap of trouble, this is not linked to the buhddist Maitreya who is also on a world tour of peace. They claim no affiliation and are separate entities. Many world notables have payed "homage" to Creme at his SHARE site over time. Many Christians hold Maitreya as the "false prophet" mentioned in Revelations, who will set up the antichrist in an Arm of the Temple. The NWO wants one world religion, and to destroy / outlaw both Christianity and Muslim religions. Theirs is a religion of man becoming god.

The loudest voices do not mean the correct answers.

Here is some more direction, info on mind control (look at the Table of Contents for "Thanks for the Memories")!!!

www.educate-yourself.org...

A message of hope regarding technology, which I'll place some hope in, even though I've kept this matter in a reserved, somewhat skeptical, unresearched state for, well, all my life until now. I'm a clean slate on the ufo material, but I find the message is worthwhile, and correllates well with the technological aspects of this matter.

www.educate-yourself.org...

The whole site is good. Defenderpublishing.blogspot.com for my best background research into this mess... blogs start in April.

On a personal note, I believe our revolution is an inner, spiritual one, and that we are all partially responsible for bringing a judgement on earth. Many of us payed TPTB to entertain us and create our western circus society, but we are Not responsible for their evil in a direct sense. We may be responsible through proxy for supporting it, choosing to remain ignorant, and refusing to make the sacrifices which were needed to change it long ago. I also consider us pawns and knights of an end-time game, it being our mixed blessing to share in its pros and cons.

I'd make a thread btw, but have only just started posting here.

They are good builders, and have been working a very long time to bring affairs about. I tempered my thoughts with this ...

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirit will from that moment be without a compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
-Albert Pike, on a plan for world conquest, written in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15, 1871.

From : www.illuminati-news.com...

The US is the greatest permitted bastion of democracy in the free world. Do you wonder why I worry about our southern neighbours in a little more than a neighbourly, brotherly sense? The feds have also set up bases in Columbia to attack the popular democracies which are set up there.

I think they're more than ready, even welcoming, of an armed revolution. I think we stand to lose some of the best potential leaders in an armed, physical revolution. Please explore other alternatives, lest we play right into their hands. myself right here for the benefit of you athiests out there : Find true religion, not the corrupt, poisoned version which has been infiltrated for centuries. Bruce Lee taught that there is good in many things, and to dump out of your cup what is bad, retaining the good. We are not gods, we were intended to serve God.

Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

thank you for explaining that for everyone. but for some reason i have a feeling that post may not get the attention it deserves

The facts NEVER get the attention they deserve when political spin and fear-mongering are the goal. All the OP had to do was look up "Class II Medical Device" to see what it was.