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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Tiger5
It is true that most Southerners did not own slaves. Slaves were very expensive.
Most slaves were owned by very wealthy plantation owning aristocrats.
Some of these aristocrats in Louisiana were not white, but Creole.
In a US census before the Civil War, around 8 million whites lived in the South. Out of these 8 million, less than 380,000 owned slaves. Over 260,000 free blacks lived in the South. Over 3,000 free blacks owned slaves, primarily in Louisiana around New Orleans.
Extreme prejudice against blacks in the South originated primarily with Irish immigrants. The Irish were at the bottom of society in the South. They were very poor and were often hired by plantation aristicrats to do dangerous work, such as construction. Slaves were kept in the fields and in the households. The immigrants were known as rednecks, from the fact they plowed their small fields. House slaves also gave them the names "white trash" and peckerwood. The latter name orginated from the house slaves who compared the red headed and loud Irishmen to woodpeckers. There was much hostility between the poor whites and the slaves.
Society in the South before the Reconstruction was somewhat feudal. Immigrants, especially from Ireland were at the very bottom. Wealthy aristocrats held all of the power and money.
After the war during the Reconstruction, the Aristocracy was destroyed. Most of the South that did not own slaves resented the blacks and blamed them for the war. They became scapegoats for poor whites.
Even in Louisiana, the once powerful Creoles found themselves victims of hate and found themselves being segregated. The landmark Supreme Court case Plessy Vs. Ferguson in 1896, by Creole Homer Plessy who refused to sit in a rail car for blacks only, lead to the court ruling that "separate but equal" was not unconstitutional.
Edited for some figures
[edit on 12/3/10 by MikeboydUS]
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Originally posted by Exposing The Devil
The Masons were a group white people living in Europe under ruling Blacks that wanted to escape the Black mans ruling / laws which were pretty much Biblical laws, so they did there own thing in hiding because they would be killed if they were caught practicing pagan or satanic crap and anything other than Biblical.
Originally posted by Exposing The Devil[/i
obsessed with promoting the idea that blacks are inherently superior to whites (as the aliens that made us are all black.. even though she implied shes an atheist in her OP she still worships these godheads).. yet for some reason you are COINCIDENTALLY completely in sinc with her posting black supremacists propaganda. It sure is lucky for her that you were ready for this thread armed with your numerous youtube and wiki references! You two should really hook up.
Oh and your joining ATS was VERY timely for her indeed- you've only ever posted in this thread! [edit on 14-3-2010 by riley]
Originally posted by Hadrian
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Of course Catholicism in southeast Asia and the influence of other religions in various other places around the world (Mormonism in Brazil - and other parts of South America, etc.) seem to arise from these areas being the "victims" of Empire and/or missionary work (perhaps the same as Empire).
I was wondering why would a person in Viet Nam remain a Catholic when it's so clear there would be no Catholicism in that country were it not for the French occupation? The vast majority of people in Viet Nam are observers of the regional "religion" of Buddhism and were it not for colonization, there would be no Christianity there. But there is.
I don't wonder why so many African Americans are Christians. I think that being deprived of education and other civil rights for such an extended period of time forced people to adopt, to fulfill their spiritual needs, to the only thing they knew, which would have been Christianity.
[edit on 3/14/2010 by Hadrian]
The article is a perfect example of how black Americans are angry. It is racist in itself and adds to the problem.
My family hails from Southern Germany, and Finland. Those are my roots. America is where I live, not where my blood and surname come from. We all share American history together, but our families history is seperate, and sacred. It is personal and belongs to us as individuals.
Since the African continent had much different map lines and perceived area boundries in "those days", I suppose black Americans know what tribe they're from?
It seems to me that you are cancelling out the anscestry point by saying that all American's history resides solely with this country.
The only difference is that because Africans were forced here, much of the lineage is lost. With thousands of tribes, some gone forever, some new, how is a black American supposed to know? Personally, I wish there was a council set up to try and make sense of this. I think it would give many African American families comfort in knowing that their roots can be traced back to a specific area. Not just Africa. Africa is huge and diverse, and almost like saying "I'm from Earth."
I do know what I am talking about. You are just telling me I don't. That doesn't make it so. African Americans do in fact have a desire to have something of their own, Beyond American history. That history is littered with awful truths. Rap music, ebonics, different styles of dress, and other black American inventions do not reside in Africa. There are no baggy pants and gold teeth in Kenya or the Sudan.
Just like the article's view on Christianity, many black Americans don't want to associate with their opressors music, language, anything. They were stripped of their heritage and want something of their own. Black men and women have told me this throughout my life.
I've never heard of ebonics in England, have you?
I can say that if I didn't know where I was from, I would indeed be searching for an identity also. Like an adopted child, there is a search for your heritage. This is why black men and women in Europe aren't nearly as angry as a cluture, and more readily accept the cultural norms of that respective country.
Originally posted by Exposing The Devil
Originally posted by riley
It sounds like you are okay with slavery so long as it's blacks enslaving whites..? The black eurpoean royal theory is still more wishful thinking on your part. Yes some were black (like middle eastern and egyptions of course) but you think irish royalty were black too?
Oh and your joining ATS was VERY timely for her indeed- you've only ever posted in this thread!
Actually, yes the first Irish were originally Black Hebrews but obviously you wouldn't know that because you don't do any research.
Also, I have no clue what your talking about with my joining of ATS being timely?
Thanks for your input.
I'm not looking for a reply.
Originally posted by Esau Must Die
Kharzar Jews are fake impostors.
Time to expose them.
The true Hebrew Israelites are Blacks from slavery, Natives and Hispanics, white people lied and erased our history of us being Hebrew Israelites.
African Americans aren't African, thats why the Africans sold them into slavery, they are not the same people.
Even in Africa, they teach in school history that the black slaves were Hebrews on the run and not African.
400 years of slavery and oppression to these 3 minorities, soon its time for pay back and justice.
America is on it's down fall, Illuminati is going down and others are rising up.
Th 12 Tribes
Judah — Black Americans
Benjamin — West Indians (Caribbean Blacks)
Levi — Haitians
Simeon — Dominicans
Zebulon — Guatemalans, Panamanians
Ephraim — Puerto Ricans
Manasseh — Cubans
Gad — Native American Indians
Reuben — Seminole Indians
Asher — Colombians, Uruguayans
Napthali — Argentines, Chileans
Issachar — Mexicans
All the Israelites have recently been enslaved and killed by White people in the same way the Deuteronomy curses explain, Arabs and Africans did the same.
[edit on 2-3-2010 by Esau Must Die]
Originally posted by Exposing The Devil
reply to post by ButterCookie
News flash, The Israelites were black, just like Christ.
You been living under a rock?
This is 2010 all the white lies are being exposed.
Type in "Jews are Black" or "Hebrew Israelites" in youtube people have put of 100's of history books, artifacts and information reveling who the Israelites are.
The white Christ is Cesare Borgia, who is a homo and rapist and hired Michelangelo and Da Vin-chi to make him the new face of Christ during the "Renaissance" aka Rebirth when white people took down us Black Hebrew Israelites slowly during our ruler-ship in Europe.
THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL
JUDAH- American Blacks
BENJAMIN- West Indian Blacks
LEVI- Haitians
SIMEON- Dominicans
ZEBULON- Black Indians Guatemala to Panama(Mayans)
EPHRAIM- Puerto Ricans
MANASSEH- Cubans
GAD- Native-American Indians
REUBEN- Seminole Indians
ASHER- Columbia to Uruguay (Incas)
ISSACHAR- Mexicans (Aztecs)
NAPTHALI- Argentina/Chile
White people tried to erase our history and continue to do so, no Christ is not an Arab neither is he White, anyone who thinks so has an poor history education.
African Americans are not African / Hammite, they are Hebrew Israelites they don't even act or look the same as Africans.
Thats why the Africans sold us into slavery so easy, were not related to them, and they has us enslaved in Egypt and Babylon.
Even today in African school history they teach the slaves in West Africa were Hebrews.
Don't fall for the white oppression, they tell us whites have like 10 different races of white people but all black people are the same.
Forget all the lies and learn the true history that they stole from us after 400 years of slavery.
Just like we slaved and built Egypt, we slaved and built America the same way we are under the Deuteronomy curses at the moment.
Disclaimer:
Warning Bad language here and truth. Don't watch if your soft.
The Elite and the Khazars know we are Israelites.
This Rabbi here admits Jesus is black.
Originally posted by Subjective Truth
The truth is often a hard and politically incorrect endeavor. harsh but true.
[edit on 14-3-2010 by Subjective Truth]