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Originally posted by Kailassa
Originally posted by nikiano
I was keeping an open mind before....now I think my mind is made up. This is a man-made virus. Because keeping media silence doesn't make sense if it's a natural epidemic.
The CDC didn't go to all the trouble of getting the 1918 virus dug up from Alaska and resurrected for nothing.
At the time the story was that this virus no longer existed, therefore they had to recreate it, breed it, send it all over the world and experiment with it, in order to make us safe from it.
Somehow that story didn't quite add up.
Originally posted by nikiano
...Call me stupid, but what I don't understand is why the crack down on the media? Why silence the media on this?
If they wanted us to get scared and take the vaccine, you would think you'd want to hype the cases.
I can understand not wanting to panic people, but there are ways of reporting things without panicking. For example, you could say "there are now isolated reports of hemorrhagic H1N1 throughout the united states. Please be aware, but do not be panicked."
I don't know....there's just something about this whole thing that doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?? What is the missing piece of the puzzle?
[edit on 22-11-2009 by nikiano]
Originally posted by wayno
First, resist -- the drugs, the immunization programs.
There surely must be more to do. Any ideas?
[edit on 11/23/2009 by wayno]
Originally posted by fieldfly
Originally posted by wayno
First, resist -- the drugs, the immunization programs.
There surely must be more to do. Any ideas?
[edit on 11/23/2009 by wayno]
Well I for one am stocking up on alternative remedies... (Echinacea, Astragalus, mineral suppliments etc).
Depending on how they implement Codex after December, your options to self medicate might well become somewhat limited, if not downright illegal !
Depending on how they implement Codex after December, your options to self medicate might well become somewhat limited, if not downright illegal!
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by JJay55
This is a reply to fieldfly.
Oh please not Echinacea. That can cause a cytokine storm. Please go back and check the items that are recommended to reduce the respiratory effects.
[edit on 23-11-2009 by sickofitall2012]
I have decided to make a concerted effort to not spend my money with corporations/chains any more than I absolutely have to. (Do you know how hard that is? But it can be done.)
On 12 November, following a ten day visit to western Ukraine, a World Health Organisation field mission reported that the official Ukrainian figures included all deaths from flu and acute respiratory illnesses and should therefore be handled with care, and that the outbreak may not killing more people than normal seasonal flu. For further details, go to the website of the World Health Organisation at www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html. You should also continue to monitor this Travel Advice and the Ukrainian Health Ministry website (www.moz.gov.ua in Ukrainian only).
The receptor binding domain (RBD) for the Ukraine H1N1 mutation, D225G, has been linked to fatal cases of swine flu infection. Demographic and genetic analysis for the H1N1 mutation taking place in the Ukraine virus has been published by Mill Hill, the London laboratory that performed testing on samples from the Ukraine. D225G is the same RBD that was found in the virus that caused the 1918 Spanish flu outbreak.
H1N1 mutation fatalities
According to this analysis of the Mill Hill lab information, each of the fatal cases of flu from the Ukraine virus contained this marker. D225G is the name for the receptor binding domain of this particular virus. A virus attaches to charged molecules on host cells, but each type of virus attaches to a different type of molecule, in a different way. The H1N1 mutation found in the Ukraine attaches in the same place, in the same way, as the Spanish flu virus from 1918.
Detection of the H1N1 mutation
While positive results for the H1N1 virus with D225G are not widespread, this may be the result of the methods of testing. Tests for swine flu typically consist of a nasal swab, which is unlikely to pick up this mutated virus, due to its location. The H1N1 mutation that is causing fatalities in the Ukraine and Norway affects the respiratory system, and is found deep in the lungs.