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Originally posted by ecoparity
reply to post by wloy7
The only advice I can give anyone is that the coming week should be looked at as something to take advantage of by those lucky enough to get the early warning.
Originally posted by nikiano
Originally posted by jedi_hamster
reply to post by nikiano
technically, it's a minor change, as far as i understand, and you should know it better as a person with medical background. in terms of importance, we were saying all the time it'll change it into far more deadly variant like that from 1918. so, as for me, it's just some random bashing about the words being used.
I should know better? Know better for what? Quoting the virologist that everybody now seems to be accepting as the expert in this issue?
I personally have said on this thread we should be wary of any expert opinon by a virologist who also owns his own vaccine company, but since everybody seems to be quoting him now, I thought I'd throw out a quote that everyone seems to have missed.
He is claiming that he's the expert virologist on this issue. I'm not a virologist...I'm a health care professional. I don't know what kind of change is a big change or a minor change in a virus. I'm only going by what this Dr. Niman says. And he says that "it signals a major change....and is cause for concern."
Once again, here is his quote:
"This jumping of the same polymorphisms form one background to another signals major changes, especially when the polymorphism "in play" is a receptor binding domain change, which is cause for concern."
I don't see anywhere where he said "technically, this is a minor change."
Originally posted by jedi_hamster
as far as ukraine and poland goes, i think it's all underreported. VERY VERY HEAVILY.
about that report on theflucase - i don't know anyone from that city.
but well... there are sprayings over my city. 11:36pm right now, just came back from very tiny trip to one small shop, to buy some ciggies. of course, woman working there had to cough. i guess it doesn't matter. i am coughing since weeks if i remember correctly, and sometimes my lungs feel weird. some heaviness, some pain in chest, but rare. maybe it's H1N1 - if yes, catched long time ago. whatever it is, it's it's in mild stage. just keeps being in that stage for quite a while without letting go. hell knows what is it, but visiting doctor is pointless anyway - i would get antibiotics probably, or nothing that i don't have already. screw it. just took vitamin C (4 times daily dose).
If a mutated form has truly hit the US, I'm very concerned about next week. The biggest travel day of the year, millions will be in airports, visiting family, etc, it could spread like wildfire very very very quickly.
Originally posted by JustMike
reply to post by nikiano
I understand that your question is purely rhetorical... ( ) But considering this thread has discussed such a wide range of diseases and conditions, including such things as various strains of flu in all their extremes, (bacterial) pneumonic plague, Ebola, Marburg and other horrors, could you suggest a specific one for this rhetorical or hypothetical CDC protocol situation?
So who's susceptible to H3N8? Experts say 80 % of dogs will catch it, especially if they frequent dog parks, pet stores, or boarding kennels. "There are dogs who have died from this," said Dahl. "The biggest issue is just how fast it happens and that you can get much more severe symptoms and issues and that it can be fatal."
Unlike human flu, H3N8 is not seasonal, so dogs are vulnerable year–round, but so far, there is no shortage of the vaccine. Consumers can get the vaccine only through veterinarians and shelters.
Furthermore, there have been a handful of reports of animals contracting H1N1 swine flu from people, including a pig at the Minnesota State Fair. The new vaccine we just told you about would not treat H1N1. Researchers would have to come up with a separate vaccine for that.
Originally posted by wayno
8. an un-nameable thing hypothetically causing a stir in Arizona
Originally posted by JJay55
Originally posted by blujay
We aren't playing Solitaire here, we are playing a sort of Chess game, and it's serious.
Exactly. And who are the players?
There are only a few powerful people who could put this scenerio into play. For the good of mankind of course, utilitarianism.
(ii). Reports or claims by non-mainstream media will be treated as per CDC standard protocol. In summary, these are “fringe” reports by alarmist radicals with their own agenda and have no basis in reality. Press officers should send releases about these “fringe” reports to our co-operating mainstream media outlets and request them to run the stories with the usual “X Files” type of music playing in the background.
[edit on 22/11/09 by JustMike]