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The 72kg of contaminated material was meant for vaccine production by sub-contractors to Baxter Europe.
Originally posted by SunnyDee
I have been following this thread from it's beginning because I believe we are analysing and witnessing the beginning stages of something very dangerous. The first week of this thread I got very frustrated reading some person's opinions (yes, opinions), so I put them on ignore. It has made it quite pleasant to follow the thread after that, although, for all I know, my few comments were ridiculed by the ignored person, but oh well, I can live with not getting into a thread argument, it serves no purpose. I realize that none of us know the truth of any of this big situation, and are all just intelligently speculating. The truth will show itself eventually and we won't even need a realiable source, (we'll all be dying or we won't) but until then, to me, all ideas and theories are open to being possible until a full realization of all these different scenarios are fulfilled or not fulfilled. Thanks to all that keep adding info here.
Originally posted by unityemissions
I thought a consensus was already made that the virus in Ukraine besides swine flu was a combination of "California flu", and two seasonal strains. Does anyone else recall reading an article that stated this? Is this not so?
The California strain was a subtype of the swine flu. It's the one where 11% of those hospitalized never made it out. It would make sense that this strain is 10x more lethal than the regular swine flu.
Eco, or anyone else, does this ring a bell? There seems to be so much conflicting information that it's a bit difficult to keep track of what's real and what's not. Was this article valid? Will try to look for the specific one.
Originally posted by Kailassa
Originally posted by unityemissions
I thought a consensus was already made that the virus in Ukraine besides swine flu was a combination of "California flu", and two seasonal strains. Does anyone else recall reading an article that stated this? Is this not so?
"The situation is complicated and unpredictable. We found a strain of this virus in our laboratory ... This virus is dangerous because it can mutate, and we can get a very different kind of virus, which was in Latin America or in Mexico, now it is European ", - said Lazoryshynets at a press conference, the "Correspondent" magazine informs. [First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets]
Situation Update No. 39
Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
reply to post by ChemBreather
Hey Chem, Thanks for coming over to post........Do you have any info for Norway??
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by butcherguy
Hmmm...massive sheep kill at Dugway Proving Grounds?
I seem to recall something like that in that timeframe. If I recall correctly it was a nerve gas, wind blew the wrong way or something.
Originally posted by ChemBreather
. . . .
Symptoms not talked about on tv is : trouble breathing, extreme fever and numbness in legs and arms and lips, just to mention a few ...
Originally posted by Kailassa
Originally posted by ChemBreather
. . . .
Symptoms not talked about on tv is : trouble breathing, extreme fever and numbness in legs and arms and lips, just to mention a few ...
Are you certain the people getting numbness in the arms and legs have not had the swine flu vaccination?
I ask because Guillain-Barré Syndrome can cause this numbness, and the vaccine is known to have a possibility of causing Guillain-Barré Syndrome.
If these symptoms are coming directly from the infection, that's a quite new symptom for an influenza virus, and would be rather worrying.
Originally posted by ChemBreather
YES, those are Vaccine Side Effects reported that is not talked about on TV, for some reason I can not figure out..
Originally posted by JJay55
Originally posted by JJay55
Ok. Can we get to a concensus yet?
Bad guys:
WHO
UN
Baxter
Victims:
Ukraine
Poland
test animals
Good guys:
us
Moshe
Now who at WHO is personally responsible? UN? Baxter?
Why yes JJay, that is an excellent question. If only the other posters on this thread would only pay attention you. Don't know why they ignore you so, you are hot.
Dugway is rumored to be the new area 51. I think the sheep kill was more than 20 years ago, and the Govnmt admitted that it was a VX test gone awry. Dugway officially is for biowarfare testing, but the base PR officer says that is mostly testing personal protective equipment for the armed forces. Sorry, it is in Utah.
Originally posted by JJay55
Originally posted by apacheman
reply to post by butcherguy
Hmmm...massive sheep kill at Dugway Proving Grounds?
I seem to recall something like that in that timeframe. If I recall correctly it was a nerve gas, wind blew the wrong way or something.
What? Where is that???
Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by CanadianDream420
nice Vid, what he say is that this thing in Ukrain is a combination of three viruses merging into an bacteria ???
What I notice in general, is that people uses H1N1 as the SwineFlu virus.
Also, it seams that people in general have forgotten that this Flu is three viruses : Avian,Swine and human, that is trhee types of viruses, yes ?
Now, first question : what virus mutates into a bacteria ?
And : how can three viruses become one type of bacterial lung disease ?
any clue ??
[edit on 17/11/2009 by ChemBreather]