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Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by ecoparity
Well.. I highly doubt any of my friends in there go voluntarily into the hospital at the moment . Let me see if I can help in any way though, I can ask them to find some.
Here's some photos in overall by the way, couple from hospitals as well.
I'm not sure have you seen, if not take a look:
With the combination of seasonal influenza and the novel H1N1 ("swine flu") pandemic, this flu season may be particularly severe. This site is designed to help you understand both types of influenza and what you can do to protect yourself and your family.
Get vaccinated. Vaccination is the best protection we have against flu. Seasonal flu vaccine is available now and initial doses of 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine also are available, with additional doses available later this year.
Pneumonia: Pneumonia is a respiratory condition in which there is inflammation of the lung.
Community-acquired pneumonia refers to pneumonia in people who have not recently been in the hospital or another health care facility (nursing home, rehabilitation facility).
Pneumonia is a common illness that affects millions of people each year in the United States. Germs called bacteria, viruses, and fungi may cause pneumonia.
Ways you can get pneumonia include:
* Bacteria and viruses living in your nose, sinuses, or mouth may spread to your lungs.
* You may breathe some of these germs directly into your lungs.
* You breathe in (inhale) food, liquids, vomit, or secretions from the mouth into your lungs (aspiration pneumonia)
Pneumonia caused by bacteria tends to be the most serious. In adults, bacteria are the most common cause of pneumonia.
* The most common pneumonia-causing germ in adults is Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus).
* Atypical pneumonia, often called walking pneumonia, is caused by bacteria such as Legionella pneumophila, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, and Chlamydophila pneumoniae.
* Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia is sometimes seen in people whose immune system is impaired (due to AIDS or certain medications that suppress the immune system).
* Staphylococcus aureus, Moraxella catarrhalis, Streptococcus pyogenes, Neisseria meningitidis, Klebsiella pneumoniae, or Haemophilus influenzae are other bacteria that can cause pneumonia.
* Tuberculosis can cause pneumonia in some people, especially those with a weak immune system.
Hemoptysis: Spitting up blood or blood-tinged sputum. Pronounced he-MOP-tis-is.
The word "hemoptysis" comes from the Greek "haima" for "blood" + "ptysis" meaning "a spitting" = a spitting of blood. The source of the blood was originally not specified but now refers only to blood from the respiratory tract.
Hemorrhage: Bleeding or the abnormal flow of blood. The patient may have an internal hemorrhage that is invisible or an external hemorrhage that is visible on the outside of the body. Bleeding into the spleen or liver is internal hemorrhage. Bleeding from a cut on the face is an external hemorrhage. The term "hemorrhagic" comes from the Greek "haima," blood + rhegnumai," to break forth = a free and forceful escape of blood.
Originally posted by itstheendoftheworldaswekn
Just seen this news released on the main MSM news website over here(Ireland). It looks like the stakes may be getting higher :
Swine flu is killing more than a tenth of those it infects in California and up to 20% of older victims, a study has shown.
Researchers in the US state also found almost a third of cases required intensive care treatment. Hospital admissions and death could occur "at all ages".
The findings, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (Jama), fly in the face of common perceptions of swine flu being a generally mild illness.
The US researchers looked at 1,088 cases of swine flu reported in California between April 23 and August 11 this year.
Of these, 32% were children under the age of 18, with infants having the highest rates of hospital admissions. The midpoint age of patients was 27.
In total, 340 patients (31%) were admitted to hospital intensive care units. Of the 297 intensive care cases for whom information was available, 65% required mechanical ventilation.
Chest X-rays of 833 patients revealed indications of pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome.
The researchers recorded 118 deaths. Fatalities were most common among people aged 50 and over, who had a mortality rate of between 18% and 20%. Seven per cent of deaths were among children younger than 18.
Among fatal cases, it typically took just 12 days after the onset of symptoms for the patient to die. The most common causes of death were viral pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome.
Originally posted by Luppakorva
reply to post by ecoparity
So in the end, those statistics, did they turn out to be correct? I mean did they release them bit by bit so the truth came out in the end or we are never going to know the actual amount of dead?
Originally posted by seattletruth
reply to post by paxnatus
I agree about posting with "inside knowledge".. Nobody is going to give credibility to anything anyone says without SEEING SOURCES... So why bother citing it as fact, and saying "well you should just trust me on it". My government tells me to "just trust them", too. Obviously we've ALL learned to not simply trust ANYONE, thats why we are all members of ATS!
However a couple of people post on this thread 100 or so times a day citing their "inside knowledge" and "secret sources", like they are SPECIAL.. For one, nobody is impressed that you have friends. And two, nobody is going to believe your word except YOU, so why bother shoving it down peoples throats a 100 times a day.
Then feathers get all ruffled when anybody questions the SECRET sources.
Really to me it seems more about ego, for them to feel like they are "part of the cool kids club", and they are gonna just relay the information down to our eager, trusting ears.
Originally posted by unicorn1
Well we can't have it all ways so which is it?
One moment WHO is being accused of fear mongering and hype to get us to take the vaccine, next they are being accused of downplaying stuff.