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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Zionism has become a dirty word when in reality it is simply the reclaiming of the promissed land. People of jewish descent have been living there for next to 3 millenia and as such I think they have the right to live there, even if it means displacing a lot of palestinians.
I agree however that the holocaust card has been overplayed!
Originally posted by Amagnon
Threatening to wipe a country off the map? No - again, incorrect. Remove the Zionist precepts and the fabricated state of Israel - yes - thats what it means. It is not a military threat, it is a statement of hope for a renewal of sanity and allowing the Palestinian people to freely return to their own lands - rather than be locked up in concentration camps as bad as any found in Nazi Germany.
Concentration camps? That is hardly accurate for many reasons which I shouldn't even have to explain. But yes it is still a tragedy because people should not have to live in tents and rely on foreign subsidies to exist. That is unacceptable!
Besides everyone blaming israel for their predicament what are they doing to help alleviate the problem? All I see is threats and bad mouthing from fellow arab nations when they could easily allow them in and properly care for them. Thats all they have to do to solve the problem but instead they prefer to use them as a propaganda weapon which is cruel in itself.
The intervention of the allies, and their military and financial support after WWII was the power that created Israel in the middle of an already stable and populated area.
There is absolutely no evidence of Iran being involved in the creation of nuclear weapons - they have abided by all the requests for inspections, and revealed everything about their nuclear program.
A great deal of evidence indicates that western agents, especially Israeli and Uk agents, incited the 'protesting' against the election results. Footage of them protesting against Ahmdinijad is difficult to find - that is because it doesn't exist - except for small numbers of paid agents.
The American people are invaders in America - they displaced the indigenous people. Do you think it is fair and reasonable that a foreign powers - such as China and Russia for example - armed all the remaining Indian people - supported them with money, weapons, mercenaries and evicted Americans from the best of the land, and held them captive inside fenced off areas?
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Um, I think you forgot the forerunner of your above-mentioned conspiracy. If you think that those are the only countries involved in the large scale veil of reality that you just spoke of, then you've been reading the bible WAAAAAAAAAY too much and spending a little too much time in the "fear factory" to be thinking clearly.
Wow, none of you statements refutes the fact that the Iranian president is full of bs, and is only trying to trap the brainwashed "revolutionaries", and the likes, mostly those in the left to his cause.
BTW, I am not Christian, and I haven't read the bible in about 20 years.....
But typical response of someone who doesn't have a reasonable counter-argument...
Originally posted by john124
Wonder what the fate of Ahmadinejad will be?
Next time a common stupid guy open is mooth : tell them the truth and where to find it, no in tv , not on youtube, and twitter , and not on google news.
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Amagnon
Disinfo? for pointing out the hypocrisy of a man who funds and controls the news coming out of his country complaining that the news coming out of other countries is manipulated by those governments?
Notice, I never once said that the west wasn't doing any media manipulation, merely pointing out that ahmadinejad is the pot, calling the kettle black.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Effective on me? I served many tours over there in that part of the world and ive talked to people from all walks of life, both from AROUND the region and FROM the region, FROM Iran.
I dont have to listen or watch anything to know what the truth is. Theres no spin here, this is first hand experience.
What YOU need to do is stop being so short sighted and understand that what happens over there DOES effect us here, and worldwide, and im not talking about oil.
You need to understand the region and understand how and WHY they fight, to understand whats going on. They dont need to be provoked, just being a non muslim, non extremist tolerating nation and people is enough, and that doesnt just go for Israel or the US, that goes for everyone.
I have a full view of the bigger picture here, not JUST whats going on in the US.