NASA To Bomb The Moon Friday, page 7

reply to post by DalJigsaw

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No it really isn't an excuse and once again, it is not a bomb! We have confirmed the presence of water from a number of sources. What they are trying to do now is figure out how much water there is. There is little point trying to make a lunar base when we are unsure of how much water it will be able to supply itself with. We can't just start construction and hope there is plenty of water.

It is a very sensible, practical approach and the data will be used in future.

Originally posted by spacecowgirl

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by LeTan

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Humans are still learning, not quite stagnating!

Humans have learnt nothing it appears.

Well it's kinda the point of this mission - to learn.

I mean, would not a manned base on the moon lend to our developing a better understanding of extra-terrestrial living?

I'm all for this. We mine barren lands on earth to the point of utter depletion, and every single one of you on here BENEFITS from it - or in protest you'd not use electricity, the internet, phone or anything directly possible from the fossil fuel power generated services.

You'd not drive your cars to work or take the bus.

But the majority of people are complicit in this mining - and that's on this very planet we NEED to survive.

The moon has been, as far as we can see, bombarded with millions of objects over the course of it's life in orbit, and something the size of a sports utility vehicle being shot at it, in order to detect something that would allow us to exist up there long term, is nothing by comparison.

If humans never chopped down a tree to make a boat, we'd never have got very much done.

Or are we suggesting that ancient ruins on the moon left there by the ancient martians who came to earth thousands of years ago to breed with the neanderthals and create modern humans, might get damaged in this process?????

reply to post by Raider of Truth

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Are you just pulling the funny?

You really are not that far gone are you?

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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I believe the payload on this missile is 2 tons of explosives , hardly the scenario you are discribing. www.examiner.com... trial-civilizations

It's NOT a missile, it's the booster stage that propels the satellite into it's final orbit in space, it will have NO fuel in it, and will have the mass of a sports car.

Ugh!!!!!!!!

Your URL links to a 404 error...

reply to post by zorgon

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Ron, what do you really think the target on the Earth's Moon to be and why?

Is it possibly to destroy the Soul Catcher Tower that John lear talked about?


You are right we can not trust NASA to always tell us the truth because we

have to look at who is actually behind the scenes funding this project.



Ron, you know something big is about to happen on the Moon can this be to

strike out at the Empire grey aliens or Domain grey aliens and to provoke

them into confrontation? Ron your the best when it comes to knowing what is

going on with the Moon. What do you really see in the Rabbit Hole? ^Y^





[edit on 6-10-2009 by amari]

Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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Sorry about the link, I was wrong , yes a 2-ton kenetic bomb with hopes to create a five mile wide crater. hope this link works better. www.examiner.com...

The LCROSS impact will excavate a crater approximately 20 meters in diameter

LCROSS FAQ

Well they are expecting quite a large plume from this' 20 Meter crater ' , that will be able to be seen from Earth. Debating the size of the crater or the type of explosive or 'kenetic' bomb is pointless, fact is they are going through with this .

LCROSS was launched ages ago. Fact of the matter is, even if they wanted to stop this mission - they couldn't. It would take a huge amount of energy to do so.



Also, I laugh at the notion that NASA should somehow be sending humans to the moon instead of this mission, even though they do not know the most basic things about spaceflight and the most basic differences between such missions.



reply to post by L.HAMILTON

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The people who made that video score very high on the "crackpot index".

[edit on 6/10/2009 by C0bzz]

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
It is kind of funny about how worked up people are getting isn't it. I am struggling to find an exact weight and size of the object that is hitting the moon. I'm sure it's quoted somewhere but i just can't find it. I did however find two other figures. According to NASA a 10 KG meteorite hitting the moon at similar speeds as the LCROSS kinetic device would have 8 billion joules of energy, the kinetic device they are using is going to have 6 billion joules of energy Therefore it should weigh around 4.8 KG.

To put that one in perspective a litre of water has a mass of 1 KG. So basically they're firing 5 litres of water (by mass) into the moon.

[edit on 6-10-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

Funny is one word, I'm finding it rather scary that so many people instantly jump up and down; makes me really think that no matter what the topic, all the media hsa to do is present it a certain way, and people will panic, scream to the heavens, start getting pitch-forks and hunting that monster in the barn...

I found some information on the dimensions of the Centaur stage rocket -

Centaur Rocket
Dimensions: The Centaur rocket is 41.6 feet tall (12.68 m) and 10 feet in diameter. Attached to the LCROSS spacecraft, the stack measures 47 feet (14.5 m).
Mass: The total mass of the Centaur at impact is at most 5,216 pounds (2,366 kg).

But before impact it will be purged of as much fuel as possible - not for prevention of any combustion but so as to not taint the readings in the resulting plume.

LCROSS QUICK FACTS

I think you might have misread the FAQ detailing the numbers too

The Centaur will be traveling at impact at 2.5km/s to release 6 billion joules.
A 10kg Meteor traveling at ~40km/s at impact would release 8 billion joules.

The comparison, I think, is to show that Centaur will cause LESS damage to the moon than any of the typical objects that hit it on a regular basis, despite the Centaur being larger. It's traveling slower at a speed of 2.5km/s while the 10KG meteor would be traveling at ~40km/s.

NASA is not looking for water on the moon.

they are looking for Helium-3
en.wikipedia.org...

The isotope is extremely rare on Earth but abundant on the moon. Some experts estimate there is millions of tons in lunar soil -- and that a single Space-Shuttle load would power the entire United States for a year.
www.asi.org...

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