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Originally posted by ExPostFacto
reply to post by breakingdradles
I wouldn't argue with JD140. This guy is known to attack OP's and derail conversation. In his other threads throughout the past year he will contradict himself whenever it pleases him.
Originally posted by TheCoffinman
as americans you automatically think, "thats a lie!" "Theyre the bad guys" .........are they?
Originally posted by Stinkhorn1
reply to post by breakingdradles
Why won't some people accept the fact that muslims want to destroy us and it's not just a few, try 13 million of them if my research is correct?
Originally posted by bigyin
In America you have Department of Defence. In the UK we have Ministry of Defense.
Defence to me means repelling an invading force, ie having systems in place at home to fight against foreign combatents entering your country.
In my view these departments should be renamed to Department of Attack and Ministry of Attack because thats what they do. They go to other countries where mostly they are not welcome and kill everyone who gets in the way.
Then we wonder why the locals get irate and want to retaliate. We call them terrorists
To be honest if I woke up to troops from another country landed in my country I would become a terrorist and fight them. Wouldn't you ?
Of course during WW2 any "terrorists" who were fighting on "our" side were called resistance movement. Amazing eh ?
Ironically on 911 the Dapartment of Defence failed to defend !!
Originally posted by 27jd
Originally posted by TheCoffinman
as americans you automatically think, "thats a lie!" "Theyre the bad guys" .........are they?
Exactly. That's the point the OP was trying to make, but was of course attacked by those who automatically think what the government has conditioned them to think, in order to pursue corporate interests with public support.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by symmetricAvenger
I've read Sun Tzu, and have two separate translations. I've also read Frederick, Napolean, Cao Cao, Patton, Alexander, Bourchet, Machiavelli, Togo, Thucydides, Cicero, Caesar, Zhuge,
Wang Xi, Suvarov, Li Quan, Jia Lin, Euripides, Rommel, Grant, Fisher, T.E. Lawrence, Meng Shi, Ho Yangxi, Churchill, Guevera, Mao, Mencius, and that's just a few of what's sitting in the bookshelf to my left.
Your point?
And about "There is no God." Knock yourself out.
It isn't important for you to believe. It's what others believe, and there is already underway, a Holy War whether you're too near-sighted to see it or not.
The "terrorists" TELL us there's a Holy War.
They already declared it.
Where were you?
Originally posted by breakingdradles
I'm showing ATS how ignorant even some of the most prominent members can be.