Originally posted by Mak Manto
Can you say nutcase?

When Obama explicitly states that illegal immigrants will not be covered by insurance, there is no, "you lie."

They will not be covered for insurance.

There is no way to identify if they are illegal.

what the hell is wrong with some people??

constantly people scream on here about how they want someone to step up and challenge the powers that be

finally a government representative actually stands up and calls obama what he is, a damn liar

and now people have the nerve to say it was the wrong forum??

what the hell!?!?!


i dont care where the forum is, or what the situation is, this is a free country, and we the people are supposed to be the ones in true power

ANYTIME/ANYPLACE is the right time and place to challenge corruption and what these liars say when they are corrupting and destroying our country and ignoring the cries and wants of americans

just because hes the elected president doesnt mean a damn thing, we should have learned that from bush

when people in power abuse their power, someone should shout out

i personally think it was great of him, while all of these other jerks are giving constant standing ovations to propaganda filled, single sentences, that the liar has been saying since he started his campaign, someone actually stood up while he was the absolute minority and voiced his opinion

its refreshing to see that the minority can still have the power to voice their side of things and shake things up


what bothers me is the mental state of many here on ats and in our country, one minute they are saying one thing, the next they are saying another

between this situation and the alex jones situation, its like some people have no clue what the hell they want

people scream, fight, argue, and look like complete fools in some of the ways they argue between 911 truth and debunking, people go out of their way to act completely childish and foolish

then someone actually stands up like alex jones and sheen and attempts to create controversy and bring attention in the msm to 911, and the minute they do so, everyone attacks him for "hoaxs" and screams about credibility

people bash obama, the govt, the corrupt, the liars, the health care plan, then someone stands up to represent them, and they turn their backs on that person too

in concluding the bottom line is many people involved in these situations are just plain insane, ignorant, bipolar and absolutely positively mentally disturbed

with this flip flopping constantly its no wonder our nation is in the state its in, its like the american people have no damn clue what they want or how they want it or what the hell they are talking about

people need to really step back and evaluate their mental health and educate themselves as to what they really want before they participate in any more discussions or anything involving politics, this kind of flip flopping is doing nothing more then making the american people look incredibly ignorant

[edit on 10-9-2009 by Dramey]

Too bad he apologized. Should have stuck to it and said a lot more. This could have been an significant motive. He seems to have been the only non-traitor in the room.

If he wasn't going to be sanctioned, then why apologize. If anything it would be yet another spotlight on this horrendous bill/plan.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by Freenrgy2]

Originally posted by AceWombat04
I hope I word this as I intend it.

I feel that there is a time and place for passionate, public debate. That said, I would not have been alright with a congressman yelling out in the middle of a speech by President Bush (with whom I wholeheartedly and vehemently disagreed 99.9% of the time,) and I am not alright with a congressman doing so during President Obama's (whose alleged intentions I agreed with during his campaign, but for whom I did not vote and with whom I currently also passionately and vehemently disagree around 90% of the time) speech either.

Whether I agree or disagree with Obama, he is the President, and he was giving a speech to a joint session of congress. I have never seen an outburst like this, and if didn't happen during the aftermath of 9/11 and the Iraq invasion, then I can't see how it's warranted now either by any means.

If people disagree with the president, I hope they passionately, and vehemently voice that disagreement. Just not while he's speaking before congress.

That's my opinion.

I agree with you, to a certain extent. However, he is not being confronted by anybody regarding the ridiculous claims his reform is or isn't going to do. HE needs to be held accountable.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
Not very mature if you ask me. This is a speech not a town hall meeting. What an arse.
Did any of the Congressmen call names when Bush spoke? just asking.

Oh Democrats *would* never do that.....

*rolls eyes