Congressman Yells 'You Lie' During Obama Speech

Originally posted by reticledc
Is it proper etiquette to do what is being done to the American people?
Is it proper etiquette to be taxed into slavery.
Does it show good taste to make our future responsible for our screw ups?
I wonder, how much of a roll does etiquette play, when fighting for your very freedom.

Do you honestly believe that is all the fault of Barack Obama?!

That Congressman is just as culpable as any politician no matter how many fingers they always point at someone else with. It's like Cheney trying to pretend as if his spendaholic gung-ho Administration had no impact whatsoever on this country or its future and all the subsequent failings are the fault of the new one.

How ridiculous.

They are all responsible.

It's just most of the public is fooled and keep this moronic shell game going when the truth is we need a complete overhaul.

- Lee

Whether the outburst was appropriate or not depends which side you are on. I thought it was totally appropriate to disrespect the President of the United States. We made a mistake. He lied to us and we voted for him. Now he is making us pay. In my book that doesn't earn him any respect. If you want to respect the "office" of the President, just remember Nixon.
Obama made a lot of campaign promises. Remember? Things about transparency, and getting our of Iraq. He even swore on Lincoln's bible to uphold the constitution. NLE 09 was unconstitutional. He trod on the Constitution. He did not uphold it. To show him respect is disrespectful. Now he is calling for Mandatory (oh no he said they would be voluntary only) (but he didn't reverse any of the executive orders making them mandatory) Swine Flu Vaccinations, when Baxter labs was caught contaminating its' flu vaccines in a way that could only be a deliberate attempt to spread bird flu as a pretext for pushing their vaccines and the American News media blacked it out. This is consistent with this thread because it shows that Obama is not only lying but he is complicit in bilking the American public and maybe endangering the American public to enrich a company that he owns stock in, or it could be an all out genocide attempt to stage a coup d'etat and finish off the Constitution. Obama does not deserve any respect whatsoever. For someone to shout out in his speech is an act of courage and a cry for freedom.

sometimes an outburst is justified; if someone is lying then I don't care their title or positions, they are liars.

I think we need more people with the guts to stand up for us, its clear the majority of the nation doesn't want this, and its clear we are fed lies every day.

I hope I word this as I intend it.

I feel that there is a time and place for passionate, public debate. That said, I would not have been alright with a congressman yelling out in the middle of a speech by President Bush (with whom I wholeheartedly and vehemently disagreed 99.9% of the time,) and I am not alright with a congressman doing so during President Obama's (whose alleged intentions I agreed with during his campaign, but for whom I did not vote and with whom I currently also passionately and vehemently disagree around 90% of the time) speech either.

Whether I agree or disagree with Obama, he is the President, and he was giving a speech to a joint session of congress. I have never seen an outburst like this, and if didn't happen during the aftermath of 9/11 and the Iraq invasion, then I can't see how it's warranted now either by any means.

If people disagree with the president, I hope they passionately, and vehemently voice that disagreement. Just not while he's speaking before congress.

That's my opinion.

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by xmaddness

 

This is not a time for bi-partisanship. This is the time to listen to wtf the American people are saying!

Couldn't have been petter put. Be you republican or democrat (centre ground is actually truly "liberal") - this is the only viable stance to take.

Originally posted by xmaddness
reply to post by stevegmu

 

A bill can be presented by the president, but it still has to be passes by the Congress and the House in order to become law. A bill of this size is very difficult to write and keep everyone happy in both parties, it would be impossible for a president to draft a bill, and edit the bill, while keeping all interested parties in mind. There are simply not enough hours in the day for the president to have to do the job of what is essentially the jobs of the congress and the house. This is the reason of why bills are created by the house and the congress, because they have the means of discussing these bills in front of their respective peers.

I would rather the president worry about other things than spending every waking moment working on one bill, you know, things like national security and running two wars.

The logic of some totally amazes me...

you talk about the President writing a bill and how it is impossible for him to keep both parties happy... I have a better idea. Tell both parties to take a flying leap and keep the American people happy! It is so clear that with all your understanding of government you fail to remember one simple thing...

They are supposed to serve THE PEOPLE. Instead you are caught up in the two party BS system which is why this country finds itself in the situation it is in to begin with.

I have been watching all the coverage of this "event" and how horrible it was that this Rep "disrespected" the office of The President with his outburst. My response? Good for him and we need more people like him who will not sit back, be lied to, and take the President at his word. Just look at the last President who said he would never spy on the American people if his legislation was passed in order to protect the country. Today we know not only was it an outright lie, but the people were being spied on before the legislation even passed!

Quite frankly, I have now found 2 politicians that I am more than happy to continue to pay with my tax dollars. Other than Ron Paul and this "rude" Representative, I say we throw the rest of the bums out on their collective back sides and let them go out and get real jobs, IF they are lucky to find one after the great job they have done being public servants.

Originally posted by xmaddness
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I am amazed at the outburst from South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson. In a time when we need bi-partisan support from both sides, it is clear that some republicans are simply going to dig in and continue to be part of the "party of no".

What furthers my anger of such outbursts is the fact that there is no final bill drawn that would even be able to prove that this is in fact a lie. Where does he get off calling this a lie without anything to back it up? Incidents like this are exactly what is causing the propagation of propagandist mis-information in this country on this issue.

Amazing.

I am sorry, you want EVERY American, including all politicians to accept a SOCIALIST healthcare, and more so one which is flawed to the bone more than others, and which even some leftist sources have supported the fact is not only a lie, but will HURT Americans instead of HELPING?.....

During this meeting President Obama preached the same thing some people keep saying here "stop the political bickering".... Well, this is not only "political bickering" but many Americans from ALL SIDES are seeing the truth about the healthcare reform, as well as the rest of the Socialist programs being implemented by the Obama administration.

What President Obama said was, "ACCEPT these SOCIALIST policies without any questions or doubts, and don't say anything about it, just ACCEPT IT"...

Is that what you are saying too?...

BTW, I not only agree with this representative saying what is true, but OTHERS SHOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME...





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Originally posted by FantasmaTaans

You do know V for Vendetta was made for President Bush Right?

V was first made for another more interesting series/movie in which a reptilian race comes to earth disguising themselves as "good humans", lied through their teeth and all they wanted was take all the water from our planet, and all the food, which included humans.

The reptilians are pretty much the Democratic party as well as those RINO, or Republicans in Name Only that side with the bloodsuckers, including corporations, all of whom want to consolidate all the power to the STATE claiming "it will be for the good of the nation", meanwhile abolishing more, and more individual rights, and squeezing the hell out of everyone with more taxes, including taxes on the Global Warming hoax....Not to mention the STATE having total control of healthcare, and the STATE under the control of the reptilians, I mean Democrats can tell Americans it is better if they continue taking pills, because the treatment, or operation is not economically viable, despite doctors' advice for the American patients to have the treatments, or surgeries...

Reptilians = Democrats aka "Progressives" aks "Socialists" in power.

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It never ceases to amaze how some people will support this person or that person just because of the beliefs they hold on to and cannot bare to let go.

All these people are liars through and through,bush liar clinton liar obama liar all part of the agenda why people think they are here for us i have no idea,honestly do what we do in the uk and don't play the game,DON'T VOTE
the best voice you have

Originally posted by eyeswilldeceive
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All these people are liars through and through,bush liar clinton liar obama liar all part of the agenda why people think they are here for us i have no idea,honestly do what we do in the uk and don't play the game,DON'T VOTE
the best voice you have

Wow, what a piece of advice...

You have to take a stance one time or another, and yes even in politics, because whether you like it or not politics rule countries. If you don't vote, you make it easier for the bloodsuckers to take complete control.

I dont know what my opinion is worth on this site, but I have to say......



This , coming from a person that is suppose to represent a majority of the republican party and in turn, the conservative party (which i no longer think the republicans represent, and havent for years)

Outrageous, and uncalled for, let the people do this, let those who ARENT partisan speak out.....

This came across to me as a PURELY political stunt taken from the pages of the tea parties and town halls of HONEST and non partisan people who REALLY disagree with whats going on in this country.

To me this is just a display by the republican party to try and sympathize and gain confidence of the American people who are REALLY paying attention in this country.......it makes me friggin sick........

To me this proves that both parties will do whatever it takes to curry favor and keep in power.......


All tho I agree with the opposition of Obama and his objectives.....I DO NOT agree with people who are in their position, exploiting our very REAL anger and discontent for political means......

SHAME ON YOU POLITICIANS.........SHAME ON YOU REPUBLICANS and SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATS!

quit posing......because soon enough the people of the united states are going to vote in someone who doesnt care about party lines......and cares about the people........and if that doesnt happen......well we will do what we have to do.........

[edit on 10-9-2009 by ManBehindTheMask]

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Hu, well its a bit different in the uk i admit because by note voting you could let a worse government into power,however in the US you only have to and if you believe they are both playing the same game like me,it is best not to play that
by voting for either one.Its the same here voting for liberals,conservatives or labour doesn't matter they are all on the same team so there is no stance to take

If it was me their I would of said this

Fracking Liar

Then I would of said this

Seize the Federal Reserve's Assets

Then I would have said

No more unconstitutional actions and taxes
WE are destroying the US of A

If they would tried to stop me, they would of had to drag me kicking, swinging and screaming out of that place.

Politicians use to challenge each other to duels.
All we have now are fracking [snip] sock puppets.

If that would happen the next day you would have the country screaming for the heads of all the NWO clowns and maybe JUST MAYBE something would change. BUT NO WE HAVE TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT

FRACK THAT AND THE NWO YOU RODE IN ON



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reply to post by ElectricUniverse

You believe there is a difference between these two,I don't therefore not voting is a vote of no confidence

Originally posted by eyeswilldeceive
You believe there is a difference between these two,I don't therefore not voting is a vote of no confidence

Representative Ron Paul is a TRUE Republican, he is now supposedly as an independent but in reality is not only still a TRUE Republican, but he embodies the same kind of Republicanism that the forefathers of this nation were.

Yes, many, if not most Republicans in power have fallen to the same corruption that most, if not all Democrats have, but Republicanism embodies the principles that made this country possible, and which gave all the rights enumerated on the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights within it to ALL Americans.

If we truly want to not only save this nation, but work for the people Americans need to find the TRUE Republicanism within them.

You want to know what TRUE Republicanism is? Read, and re-read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights within the Constitution, and you will find what a TRUE Republican is.



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I would have stood there beside you and done the same thing.

Americans are forgetting that in the early days, even long after the nation was funded, politicians would YELL TO THE TOP OF THEIR VOICES, as they were supposed to represent the people and would do so with convinction.

Read my signature and you can read how a forefather of the REPUBLIC would have spoken in front of the president, and all other politicians.

Originally posted by Debsturrs
nothing but disresepct.
republicans are seriously annoying me.

Disrespect really?

Disrespect is lieing to the people, not being called out about your lies

reply to post by xmaddness


The Senator is a nob for shouting that out, and should really have been removed from the building. But this would only have offered the maniacs within your country more fuel to throw on their insanse idelogical fire.

Great speech, i hope for the sake of uninsured and underinsured Americans (over 150 mil)that the reform will pass.

reply to post by xmaddness


It just goes to the character of the president. When has he told the truth?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by endisnighe

 

I would have stood there beside you and done the same thing.

Americans are forgetting that in the early days, even long after the nation was funded, politicians would YELL TO THE TOP OF THEIR VOICES, as they were supposed to represent the people and would do so with convinction.

Read my signature and you can read how a forefather of the REPUBLIC would have spoken in front of the president, and all other politicians.

AMEN BROTHER

Why cant he yell? just becuase hes the PREZ? Or is it becuase he Is the super Messiah Obama?