NASA ADMITS: Moon Landing Tapes Got Erased

reply to post by conar


No, I don't think so. You MIGHT estimate the distance to the drop-off as 10-15 meters...BUT, after that, the hills in the distance could be on the horizon, kilometers away!!!





The best way to figure this out is to find which mission that was (OH...I see it's Apollo 17, magazine 141 frame 21522??).

Well, using the info from when and where the photo was taken, we can then look at LROC pictures and determine the surrounding terrain distances!

I truly doubt you'll see any front-screen projections there!

There is a little white rip in the screen in this shot, little left of the big black cross in the middle of pic
Unless its a moon whorm
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Huh?

Are you talking about that cylindrical piece of metal? That's a piece of the Rover.

Here is a diagram:


It's part of the communications antenna mounting.

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Here some more pics
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Funny edge, like a water pool
The mountain looks 2D
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Without any other information and based on the other photos I have seen, I would say at least 20 times that, 200 or 300 metres away.

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by conar
* the wheels are not turning

Not seeing the wheels turning is to be expected, as the scene was a bright day scene the camera used a high shutter speed, and with those settings the movements are "frozen", that is how we can see photos of athletes in action, for example, instead of a clearer body and blurred arms and legs.

ArMap,

I don't mean to speak for Conar. But I think the point was the wheel (rim position) was same in 4 different photos. The diagonal "line" on the rear wheel is IDENTICAL. If a clock, 2:40. My crude composite below:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/74734843f532.jpg[/atsimg]

I don't mean to be contrary. Coincidence?

Rergards...KK

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Just to chime in, KK....if you look REALLY closely at the first two pics, you will see that the LRV isn't even moving at all! Look behind the right rear wheel...see the little white rock, and small depression?

edit: One Astronaut is just sitting there, the other is walking around taking the pictures. Simple!

[edit on 23 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

He moves his arm slightly though

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He moves his arm slightly though

Uh huh? He moves his arm. It is four separate photos, while he's sitting there. He moved his arm. So?

Originally posted by weedwhacker
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He moves his arm slightly though

Uh huh? He moves his arm. It is four separate photos, while he's sitting there. He moved his arm. So?

That contradicts what you said, remember?
That he shot the photos so fast that everything frooze
sorry, ArMaP used the frozen word, but I think you meant the same.
...

he is not driving, nothing more to say.

[edit on 23-7-2009 by conar]

Originally posted by Kevin_X2


Was there not a thread not too long ago stating that the original tapes had been found in some guys attic or something like that? I also heard a rumor that the original tapes were being kept in the back of a building that looked like an abandoned McDonald's.

Either way, i think this is a blatant lie and pretty astounding. Not only is that a landmark in our history that they supposedly "erased", but this is NASA. they cant just say they erased the tapes... that's ridiculous. They just don't want anyone to see the raw tapes, and i think its for 1 of 3 reasons:

one: There's things on the tape they don't want to explain

two: the tapes contain proof the landings were faked.

three: they didn't bother to make tapes of the fake moon landing

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Magnetic tape is very fragile and will degrade over time. To "check" the status of those tapes you have to find a working machine-system that can run them. I really hope they would have kept some of the old equipment to do this. But when new technology comes out, who thinks of keeping any of the old stuff around for historical reasons?

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When we looked at ONE image, that you provided, and you asked about the wheels, the assumption was that the photo was taken while the LRV was in motion!!!

Really, are you just trying to play a game, now? Because, sure looks like it.

Upon seeing the series of four shots, all taken from different vantage points, it's obvious that the Astronaut with the camera had to move in between each shot. That would mean a time difference between shots of at least a few seconds. The guy sitting in the LRV was doing something else...on the ocntrol panel. Adjusting the video camera? Talking to Houston?? Who knows?

Do I really need to explain the obvious????

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Yup. By doing so the location of the rover can be pinpointed later.

164:18:45 EVA-3 at the SEP site. Partial pan. LM, LRV, SEP transmitter. Gene is sitting on the Rover, waiting for Jack to finish these documentation photos showing the LRV position at the start of the traverse.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by kinda kurious

 

Just to chime in, KK....if you look REALLY closely at the first two pics, you will see that the LRV isn't even moving at all! Look behind the right rear wheel...see the little white rock, and small depression?

edit: One Astronaut is just sitting there, the other is walking around taking the pictures. Simple!

[edit on 23 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

OK, I'll accept that.

Caption reads:

"Gene has positioned the LRV so that he is headed north and is within 5 meters of the north arm and 10 meters of the SEP transmitter. Jack takes a series of pictures to document the location so that the SEP experiments can calibrate their data."

EDIT TO ADD: Phage beast me to it. Do you guys have jobs?

A simple answer that makes sense now. Thanks.


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Hehe. Gotcha!

An nice side effect is that it also demonstrates (once again) that the distant hills are indeed, distant. (maybe "someone" can put together one of those nifty animations)

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OK, I understand it now, thanks for the explanation.

Sometimes it's hard to understand what people mean.

Has anyone given an explanation to why the lunar soil changes color in a strait line through the pictures?

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[edit on 23-7-2009 by conar]

I am the first to admit that I am not as half as technical as the many contributors who
frequent these discussions. I remain conflicted by so much data on both sides. I've even been known to 'flip-flop" within a thread.

Sometimes I feel emotional and even guilty for not simply accepting the 'official' story.
Occasionally during my research I stumble upon something that moves me. The story below is once such instance. I imagine this guy surrounded by miles of wires, racks and tech gear whose human curiosity and need to witness 'history' overcame his critical duty. I suspect there are thousands of such stories.
You just can't make this stuff up.

At Honeysuckle Creek Kevin Gallegos, the technical
officer responsible for the SDSS, was working away in
the bowels of the control building, unable to see the TV
pictures he was processing. He wasn’t allowed to view the
video in real-time since he had important work to concen-
trate on. Eager to view the live transmission, and unable
to contain his curiosity any longer, he fed the TV signals
from the demodulators straight into the video input of his
small oscilloscope and was able to view the moonwalk live
in glorious black and green.

As he related to the author:
There I was in the bowels of the building monitoring the
signals coming in. This most historic event was unfold-
ing and I couldn’t see it since I had no TV — I wasn’t
allowed. So I decided to feed the TV signals into the
video input of my small oscilloscope and there it was. I
saw the pictures of Armstrong and Aldrin on the Moon
on the small black and green screen of my CRO.

www.hq.nasa.gov... (pg.307)

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I can only guess, not having been there

Different soil types? Different lighting angles?

I am quite sure this will help out on killing all the conspiracy theories that man never landed on the moon.

Good job Nasa.