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Topic started on 30-6-2009 @ 12:51 AM by 12.21.12

States brace for shutdowns


www.latimes.com
States brace for shutdowns
Time is running out for the legislatures in Arizona, California, Indiana, Mississippi and Pennsylvania to solve budget gaps.
By P.J. Huffstutter and Nicholas Riccardi
June 30, 2009
Reporting from Indianapolis and Denver -- The last time Indiana missed its deadline for passing a budget and had to shut down the government was during the Civil War.

But on Monday, as lawmakers raced to hammer out an agreement over school funding, state agencies began preparing 31,000 workers to be temporarily out of a job. Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels has warned residents that
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 01:39 AM by shai hulud
reply to post by whatukno



What? Are you freakin serious? The GOP are not even in control of their own party. If there were not a single elected Republican in the world, you guys would still fall for this party crap. They are one and the same and have been for a long time.

As each state goes broke, their rights go with it. This is very clever on their part.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 01:45 AM by whatukno
reply to post by shai hulud



Please explain to me how if a state goes broke they automatically loose all of their rights afforded them under the US constitution and their own constitutions? Please give me a detailed and well researched explanation on how that bull plop is even possible.

The GOP for the last 8 years has crammed fear down our collective throats and now that they don't have any power they just switched to megaphones to get their fear agenda out.

Not one of them has ever produced substantial proof of the tripe they are trying to get us to swallow, they are just using any fear tactic they possibly can to make people afraid enough of the democrats to get them re elected.

It's propaganda pure and simple and I ain't buying this load of horse poo.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 02:03 AM by chise61
reply to post by 12.21.12




Meanwhile the Federal Government will step in and take over making each state who recieves help from the federal government surrender it's right to sovereignty.



You know this theory isn't all that far fetched, especially since so many states are making it a point to claim thier sovereignty. I can actually see the POTUS putting a plan like that together behind closed doors, after all look what he did with the auto industry. "Can't make your budget, not to worry we can bail you out too, just sign on the dotted line....." thing is who's gonna bail out the Feds ?


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 02:47 AM by kyred
Ohio is running late on their budget proposal. It seems it all depends on opening casinos to raise money. Gag. In Kentucky, we are behind the curve. We have quite a deficit coming and no hope in sight. Fortunately, it's just a billion dollars. Heh. Ways to correct this? Raise taxes! The state raised taxes on tobacco and alcohol just before the fed govt raised taxes on tobacco. The outcome? Less taxes received because a lot of people said to hell with you. lol. Maybe an increase in income tax? Oops. Less people working, 10.6 percent unemployment. In my town a big employer, a magazine printer and binder is laying off people for two weeks, to start.
Um, yeah, let's tax lottery ticket purchasers. Okay. Well, since nobody in any sort of great numbers wins a prize, well, I predict a decline in ticket sales. Duh. Low income people bet on lotteries. And they don't have the money to bet, now. Duh. Meanwhile, the tax on the sales of lottery tickets will provide for what? Oh. Bigger purses for horse racing. But not bigger returns for bettors and winners of the bets. Just bigger purses for the owners of the race horses. William Shatner doesn't need more incentive to run a horse in a race. He has enough. If the horse racing industry dies? So freaking what? It really doesn't provide much employment. Come on. Obama said we all gotta shed some skin now. LOL. Maybe next time Michelle goes out for a photo op she will wear a pair of 300 dollar sneakers, instead of 500 dollar sneakers.

Meanwhile. while the weather is good, we will all wear the plastic shoes made in China sold at Dollar General.



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:25 AM by warrenb
reply to post by 12.21.12



SHTF



it's coming

you can feel it, I can feel it, we can all feel it (at least on ATS)

question is

Are you ready?


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:48 AM by whatukno
reply to post by 12.21.12



Oh and it happens like this. When you accept help from the Federal Government, you comply to their conditions, you can't make up your own.


Unless those conditions are unconstitutional. We are talking states here not private corporations. States have rights under the constitution and their own constitutions.

I am still waiting for someone to come up with any real reasonable and legally sound way (backed by well researched data) that the federal government would strip a state of their constitutionally protected sovereignty if they accept help from the government.
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