States brace for shutdowns

States brace for shutdowns

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States brace for shutdowns
Time is running out for the legislatures in Arizona, California, Indiana, Mississippi and Pennsylvania to solve budget gaps.
By P.J. Huffstutter and Nicholas Riccardi
June 30, 2009
Reporting from Indianapolis and Denver -- The last time Indiana missed its deadline for passing a budget and had to shut down the government was during the Civil War.

But on Monday, as lawmakers raced to hammer out an agreement over school funding, state agencies began preparing 31,000 workers to be temporarily out of a job. Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels has warned residents that

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....and so it begins. Now that we have witnessed the bankruptcies of several huge corporations it is time to behold the fall of the State Governments and watch the Fed comes crashing shortly after the reality of those state employees who find they no longer have jobs because even state governments can not sustain and provide security.

Meanwhile the Federal Government will step in and take over making each state who recieves help from the federal government surrender it's right to sovereignty.

I believe this is the panic we have all been waiting for.

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Of the 46 states whose fiscal year ends today, 32 did not have budgets passed and approved by their governors as of Monday afternoon, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Yes out of 46 states 32 did not have budgets passed.

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Whoaaa....So Cali is NOT alone afterall!

I see a day of reckoning comming very soon.

Is there a reset button? I think we need to find it soon and go back to 1913 and fix this issue cause well...

Life is really going to suck for all soon.

Well the fat lady is starting to sing.

Is this how it begins,state by state?I guess the domino effect theory is valid after all.Just didnt expect to see it applied here by our own leaders.

dupe post

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smell that?

I do, it's the smell of unmitigated BULL [snip]

The fearmongering of the GOP knows no bounds.

We shuold send an email to Bernenke with his won words..the eceonomy is fine, no layoffs eh? What a pathetic Liar

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What? Are you freakin serious? The GOP are not even in control of their own party. If there were not a single elected Republican in the world, you guys would still fall for this party crap. They are one and the same and have been for a long time.

As each state goes broke, their rights go with it. This is very clever on their part.

So wait, what does this mean exactly? Will any of us actually see any change at all, or will the government swoop in and take some sovereignty away from some of the states without a single peep from the MSM? Will there be panic, or will nobody notice anything?

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Please explain to me how if a state goes broke they automatically loose all of their rights afforded them under the US constitution and their own constitutions? Please give me a detailed and well researched explanation on how that bull plop is even possible.

The GOP for the last 8 years has crammed fear down our collective throats and now that they don't have any power they just switched to megaphones to get their fear agenda out.

Not one of them has ever produced substantial proof of the tripe they are trying to get us to swallow, they are just using any fear tactic they possibly can to make people afraid enough of the democrats to get them re elected.

It's propaganda pure and simple and I ain't buying this load of horse poo.

Wate and watch is my advice lets see what happens in a few weeks I don't think anything will but thats just me in the 11th hr the budgets will get passed and well not see the fed step in.

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Meanwhile the Federal Government will step in and take over making each state who recieves help from the federal government surrender it's right to sovereignty.

You know this theory isn't all that far fetched, especially since so many states are making it a point to claim thier sovereignty. I can actually see the POTUS putting a plan like that together behind closed doors, after all look what he did with the auto industry. "Can't make your budget, not to worry we can bail you out too, just sign on the dotted line....." thing is who's gonna bail out the Feds ?

Ohio is running late on their budget proposal. It seems it all depends on opening casinos to raise money. Gag. In Kentucky, we are behind the curve. We have quite a deficit coming and no hope in sight. Fortunately, it's just a billion dollars. Heh. Ways to correct this? Raise taxes! The state raised taxes on tobacco and alcohol just before the fed govt raised taxes on tobacco. The outcome? Less taxes received because a lot of people said to hell with you. lol. Maybe an increase in income tax? Oops. Less people working, 10.6 percent unemployment. In my town a big employer, a magazine printer and binder is laying off people for two weeks, to start.
Um, yeah, let's tax lottery ticket purchasers. Okay. Well, since nobody in any sort of great numbers wins a prize, well, I predict a decline in ticket sales. Duh. Low income people bet on lotteries. And they don't have the money to bet, now. Duh. Meanwhile, the tax on the sales of lottery tickets will provide for what? Oh. Bigger purses for horse racing. But not bigger returns for bettors and winners of the bets. Just bigger purses for the owners of the race horses. William Shatner doesn't need more incentive to run a horse in a race. He has enough. If the horse racing industry dies? So freaking what? It really doesn't provide much employment. Come on. Obama said we all gotta shed some skin now. LOL. Maybe next time Michelle goes out for a photo op she will wear a pair of 300 dollar sneakers, instead of 500 dollar sneakers.

Meanwhile. while the weather is good, we will all wear the plastic shoes made in China sold at Dollar General.

good good , the faster the america increases tax , the faster its collapse will be .

let Obama messiah continue the onslaught of socialism , only then will a revolution happen in USA and people will begin resisting the fascist socialist american federal empire

What I don't understand is why no one seems to understand that we don't have a housing crisis, banking crisis, or liquidity crisis...we have a JOBS crisis. The corporatists have outsourced America and forgot that the"consumer" needed a freaking JOB to continue to consume, because THEY won't give credit unless one is employed. Now it's far too late to recover, since their solution is to lay off yet more workers.

Bah, humbug, and crap.

I'm not worried about the Feds, cuz they're more broke than California. Washington and New York seem to live in some sort of impenetrable fantasy bubble because nothing they've tried so far seems to bear any relation to the real world I happen to live in. Bring on the collapse...I like the sound of the "Republic of California".

Can I get a little bump for some early Tuesday morning action?

Whoop, whoop?

Oh and it happens like this. When you accept help from the Federal Government, you comply to their conditions, you can't make up your own. Either that or become a third world sovereign state. Thats the way it's gonna go. Obama can't make you do anything on your own. Thats why he is going to allow this to happen, so that you can be accepted by the International Community...all you have to do is reach out and uh do some community service. This is the United States of Crap. We make money off of frauds and fake money. Then we sell each other out for some good old hollywood ass kicking governators and bail out packages for bankers while the ones who actually do honest work get nothing.

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SHTF

it's coming

you can feel it, I can feel it, we can all feel it (at least on ATS)

question is

Are you ready?

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Oh and it happens like this. When you accept help from the Federal Government, you comply to their conditions, you can't make up your own.

Unless those conditions are unconstitutional. We are talking states here not private corporations. States have rights under the constitution and their own constitutions.

I am still waiting for someone to come up with any real reasonable and legally sound way (backed by well researched data) that the federal government would strip a state of their constitutionally protected sovereignty if they accept help from the government.