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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:43 AM by glevel
Here in Arizona we are facing a shutdown next week, and the controlling parties' response to this? Why passing a flat tax that will ct the top 5% of earners taxes in half of course. Their rationale is that lower taxes for the rich create more jobs, which is an oversimplification of the whole scenario. If the rich are the ones that are creating jobs, then it is they that are to blame for the current illegal immigration problem , at least in part. Here in Arizona that situation is a huge problem, yet these so called job makers refuse to take any of the blame. On top of that they are the first to scream " why should we have to pay for these so called anchor babies to go to school?" .Uh, maybe because in your lust for more money you all encouraged these people to come across the border. On top of that they also were the ones that cost this state millions with the alt- fuel vehicle fiasco back in 2001. Add to this the fact that almost every piece of legislation passed in this state, every other state, and the federal government is directly influenced by lobbyists hired by them and serve no purpose except to make them even more money, such as legislation benefiting the insurance companies, the pharmecuetical industry, the private prison industry, etc., etc., etc.

Well, we still have not passed the budget, with no days left, but we have gotten closer to stricter anti-abortion legislation which requires a 24 hour waiting period and the right of any pharmacy to refuse to dispense the morning after pill because of moral beliefs. We also are close to passing a law requiring all police dept.s in the state to check immigration status, which I also back, but I really do not understand why this cannot be dealt with after a budget is passed. I realize that Arizona politics is the laughing stock of state politics, with clowns like Joe arpaio and Manet Napolitano to our credit, but seriously, what are these jerks thinking. Our state police agency will have to cut any non-essential duties ( noone is really sure how that will play out)
and it has been reported that no child abuse calls will be investigated as long as the shutdown is in effect, but these jokers sure have their priorities in order....screw the budget, tax cuts for the rich, anti abortion laws and illegal immigration are more important.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:43 AM by Kombatt98
reply to post by Stormdancer777



virtually , every economist who does not kowtow the govt propaganda is saying this (like celente,schiff,noubini,paul craig roberts etc.)

so stop drinking your corporate propaganda cool aid , and follow the US constitution,which your forefathers wrote .

shame on you americans for having turned your nation into hypermilitarisitc fascist socialist third reich

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Kombatt98]



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:47 AM by warrenb
Originally posted by Estharik
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post by warrenb



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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:56 AM by 12.21.12
reply to post by glevel



Thats disturbing, but you seem to know a great deal about it.

So there is going to be a time window in which the Federal Government can intrude domestically while the state governments are not operating?


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:58 AM by mrpotatohead
reply to post by shai hulud



people need to get away from the party politics crap. I'm a registered Rep, and the Rep's started screwing things up under Bush#2. The Dems are finishing it now. The economy is so bad, it really doesn't make any difference who's fault it is--WE are ALL Screwed.
Both sides work for the same puppet masters--the PTB(powers that be) get used to it guys, there are the elite out there, and they are gaining control over everything as we speak. Your rights are flying out the window on a breeze. We have now become the USSA.

It's here, and it's for real, get used to it.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:09 AM by glevel
reply to post by 12.21.12

I am not sure what the fed's response will be, but there is probably like a 90% chance that it won't be good for anyone except the federal government, but who knows? Maybe these clowns will pass a budget in time...they gave themselves another week( although the state constitution requires them to have a budget passed by july 1st, but hey it's just a piece of paper, right?) but going by their track record in the 15 years I have lived here it won't be of benefit to anyone but themselves and their backers.



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:30 AM by Skelkie3
reply to post by 12.21.12



What's with this notion of states losing there ' rights ' ?

Google ' Abraham Lincoln ' then wade through the miles of ' it was all about slavery ' and other crap, and you will find that the US Constitution ( which put states and their laws ABOVE the nat'l government ) was murdered there... along with at least a million people- many of whom just didn't want THIER property traded on wall street- or didn't need or want English/Rothchild loans.

Even the pretense of constitutional america died then- with Lincoln. The single greatest murderer in American history.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:34 AM by gaslaugh123
Originally posted by 12.21.12


....and so it begins. Now that we have witnessed the bankruptcies of several huge corporations it is time to behold the fall of the State Governments and watch the Fed comes crashing shortly after the reality of those state employees who find they no longer have jobs because even state governments can not sustain and provide security.

Meanwhile the Federal Government will step in and take over making each state who recieves help from the federal government surrender it's right to sovereignty.

I believe this is the panic we have all been waiting for.

www.latimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Of the 46 states whose fiscal year ends today, 32 did not have budgets passed and approved by their governors as of Monday afternoon, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.


Yes out of 46 states 32 did not have budgets passed.

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Amen. This is going to hurt, of course it already does. Finding more individuals (in my area of the South....Ala) are starting to see the hand writing on the wall and they (like myself) are scared sh*tless. This is some very serious evil exposing itself like never before.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:50 AM by Skelkie3
reply to post by The Broadcaste



You raise a scary point - TPTB must be expecting and prepared for this, since they are not offering quick fixes to move things along...

On MSN there is a front page blurb about a doctor who has ' adopted ' thousands of embryos ( I'm LINK and other computer stuff illiterate so far ).

Who else has adopted embryos, and- just how expendable should this sort of thing make me feel, anyway ?


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:01 PM by Skelkie3
reply to post by seabisquit



Jeez, what group will O---a liberate- as he massacres these modern day seccessionists ?
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