States brace for shutdowns

Does anyone remember the "Stimulus Package?" The federal government did bail out the states already.

But surprisingly US troops aren't rounding everyone up and sending them off to the gulags.

Here in Arizona we are facing a shutdown next week, and the controlling parties' response to this? Why passing a flat tax that will ct the top 5% of earners taxes in half of course. Their rationale is that lower taxes for the rich create more jobs, which is an oversimplification of the whole scenario. If the rich are the ones that are creating jobs, then it is they that are to blame for the current illegal immigration problem , at least in part. Here in Arizona that situation is a huge problem, yet these so called job makers refuse to take any of the blame. On top of that they are the first to scream " why should we have to pay for these so called anchor babies to go to school?" .Uh, maybe because in your lust for more money you all encouraged these people to come across the border. On top of that they also were the ones that cost this state millions with the alt- fuel vehicle fiasco back in 2001. Add to this the fact that almost every piece of legislation passed in this state, every other state, and the federal government is directly influenced by lobbyists hired by them and serve no purpose except to make them even more money, such as legislation benefiting the insurance companies, the pharmecuetical industry, the private prison industry, etc., etc., etc.

Well, we still have not passed the budget, with no days left, but we have gotten closer to stricter anti-abortion legislation which requires a 24 hour waiting period and the right of any pharmacy to refuse to dispense the morning after pill because of moral beliefs. We also are close to passing a law requiring all police dept.s in the state to check immigration status, which I also back, but I really do not understand why this cannot be dealt with after a budget is passed. I realize that Arizona politics is the laughing stock of state politics, with clowns like Joe arpaio and Manet Napolitano to our credit, but seriously, what are these jerks thinking. Our state police agency will have to cut any non-essential duties ( noone is really sure how that will play out)
and it has been reported that no child abuse calls will be investigated as long as the shutdown is in effect, but these jokers sure have their priorities in order....screw the budget, tax cuts for the rich, anti abortion laws and illegal immigration are more important.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


virtually , every economist who does not kowtow the govt propaganda is saying this (like celente,schiff,noubini,paul craig roberts etc.)

so stop drinking your corporate propaganda cool aid , and follow the US constitution,which your forefathers wrote .

shame on you americans for having turned your nation into hypermilitarisitc fascist socialist third reich

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Originally posted by Estharik
reply to post by warrenb

 

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reply to post by glevel


Thats disturbing, but you seem to know a great deal about it.

So there is going to be a time window in which the Federal Government can intrude domestically while the state governments are not operating?

reply to post by shai hulud


people need to get away from the party politics crap. I'm a registered Rep, and the Rep's started screwing things up under Bush#2. The Dems are finishing it now. The economy is so bad, it really doesn't make any difference who's fault it is--WE are ALL Screwed.
Both sides work for the same puppet masters--the PTB(powers that be) get used to it guys, there are the elite out there, and they are gaining control over everything as we speak. Your rights are flying out the window on a breeze. We have now become the USSA.

It's here, and it's for real, get used to it.

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
Is there a reset button? I think we need to find it soon and go back to 1913 and fix this issue cause well...

Life is really going to suck for all soon.

Well the global elites version of a reset button is
rule #1 on the Georgia Guidestones.

The Georgia Guidestones - rule #1 6.2 billion ppl to be killed

Let us hope that is not the reset they got in mind just yet.

reply to post by 12.21.12
I am not sure what the fed's response will be, but there is probably like a 90% chance that it won't be good for anyone except the federal government, but who knows? Maybe these clowns will pass a budget in time...they gave themselves another week( although the state constitution requires them to have a budget passed by july 1st, but hey it's just a piece of paper, right?) but going by their track record in the 15 years I have lived here it won't be of benefit to anyone but themselves and their backers.

We are talking about States being shut down for a budget gap...

What about the national debt? Shouldn't MOST of that be attributed to the Fed?

Corrupt times.

reply to post by 12.21.12


What's with this notion of states losing there ' rights ' ?

Google ' Abraham Lincoln ' then wade through the miles of ' it was all about slavery ' and other crap, and you will find that the US Constitution ( which put states and their laws ABOVE the nat'l government ) was murdered there... along with at least a million people- many of whom just didn't want THIER property traded on wall street- or didn't need or want English/Rothchild loans.

Even the pretense of constitutional america died then- with Lincoln. The single greatest murderer in American history.

Originally posted by 12.21.12


....and so it begins. Now that we have witnessed the bankruptcies of several huge corporations it is time to behold the fall of the State Governments and watch the Fed comes crashing shortly after the reality of those state employees who find they no longer have jobs because even state governments can not sustain and provide security.

Meanwhile the Federal Government will step in and take over making each state who recieves help from the federal government surrender it's right to sovereignty.

I believe this is the panic we have all been waiting for.

www.latimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Of the 46 states whose fiscal year ends today, 32 did not have budgets passed and approved by their governors as of Monday afternoon, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Yes out of 46 states 32 did not have budgets passed.

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Amen. This is going to hurt, of course it already does. Finding more individuals (in my area of the South....Ala) are starting to see the hand writing on the wall and they (like myself) are scared sh*tless. This is some very serious evil exposing itself like never before.

I wonder how the non-informed person will white-wash this in their minds? People seem to always assume that "Oh well, things will get better eventually" yet they have been moving in the same direction for years.

Considering the mass unrest a huge disruption like this would cause, TPTB must be confident that they are on track to whatever outcome they have in mind, otherwise they'd just print up some more temporary money to keep everyone quiet....

reply to post by The Broadcaste


You raise a scary point - TPTB must be expecting and prepared for this, since they are not offering quick fixes to move things along...

On MSN there is a front page blurb about a doctor who has ' adopted ' thousands of embryos ( I'm LINK and other computer stuff illiterate so far ).

Who else has adopted embryos, and- just how expendable should this sort of thing make me feel, anyway ?

This is nothing more than an attempt to dishonor the states and place them in debt even further to the global finaciers.

"The hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland, financiers are without patriotism and without decency, their sole object is gain."

Napolian

Taking a brief look at the history of the money changers we discover many facts that allign the past and the present in what has never been a stable option or life well lived for the common man.

The monetary systems never were created to ease the daily burdens of the hard working honest person, in fact just the opposite has been the case.

Economists continually try and sell the public the idea that recessions or depressions are a natural part of what they call the "business cycle".
This timeline below will prove that is simply not the case. Recessions and depressions only occur because the Central Bankers manipulate the money supply, to ensure more and more is in their hands and less and less is in the hands of the people.
Central Bankers developed out of money changers and it is with these people we pick the story up in 48 B.C. below.

Written by Andrew Hitchcock in 2006, this article is a overview of the chain of money changers from the year 48BC to 2003. Well worth a look: www.iamthewitness.com...

Some things will never change as long as people remain complacent.

Those of you who have stalled and not prepared, better get on the move on. At least get yourself some rice and beans and salt and water, basic survival stuff. If your hardcore like me, better stock up on coffee and sugar too. Without coffee, life would not be worth living and the rice and beans would be pointless.

Let the secessions begin. The states that survive the initial panic will not allow the masses of unemployed nor the welfare leaches to come in and destroy what is left of their solvency.

reply to post by seabisquit


Jeez, what group will O---a liberate- as he massacres these modern day seccessionists ?

How about a simple solution first.


Cut all state pensions, health care, and the governmental working force by at least 60%.


Then shut down at least 3 days a week the non-emergency services.

Reduce Government?!?! Careful, you sound like a domestic terrorist with talk like that.

/sarc

I bet the military is recruiting for future peacekeeping missions, and you won't even have to leave your state!

But seriously, it is scary that it has been allowed to get this far. People have been sleeping too long...

Fire up those printing presses baby! We cant have revolution...yet!

It has to be planned, coordinated and then...executed.