Unexplained Mysteries On The Moon And Mars! An Alien Connection?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
The image you show above looks exactly like what you would expect if it were etched electrically (or if water erosion due to a torrent eroded the soil).

See it at its full resolution and tell us if you still think the same about it.

Photo PSP_006270_0955

On that site you can see several photos like that, just search for Swiss Cheese.

reply to post by jkrog08

Yes, that is the crater in question.

Lava tube questions:
1) I would not venture a guess as to the age of the lava tubes (if that's what they are).
2) I don't have the patience to search for similar features. But if I did, and if I found them, how would that validate the lava tube theory over the vehicle track theory? Wouldn't that just mean there were vehicles all over the Moon?

There are different kinds of faults, all are not straight. The examples of faulting on Mars have been subject to weathering. Schroeter's Valley (on the Moon) was not produced by faulting. It, and the other rilles on the Aristarchus plateau are very likely the result of volcanic activity; perhaps the collapse of very large lava tubes or the carving of channels by molten lava. Before you ask, being in a level area rather than a steep slope, the lava tubes would tend to meander. Similar to the way a river flowing though level terrain does.

Here is an example of a straight rille on the Moon, produced by surface fracturing along a fault line. Even though on a much a larger scale than the ones on the slopes of Moltke, it shows remarkable linearity. history.nasa.gov...

I don't know for certain what made the lines on the side of Moltke. But the examples I showed make it pretty hard to imagine they were made by vehicles.


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reply to post by Phage


Agreed, your explanation is most likely, however I will try to look into the picture you linked more throughly tomarrow.

Maybe different people see different things. I see no signs of alien civilizations in any of the photos. Impressive natural geological formations, O.K. How is invoking Occam`s Razor giving you the simpler explanation of alien civilizations as opposed to natural geological formations or gliches in the photography? Lunar formations or John Lear`s Soul Tower?

I'm guessing the OP first photo is tire tracks from a side view. Take a look at this photo:
areo.info...

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
The image you show above looks exactly like what you would expect if it were etched electrically (or if water erosion due to a torrent eroded the soil).

See it at its full resolution and tell us if you still think the same about it.

Photo PSP_006270_0955

On that site you can see several photos like that, just search for Swiss Cheese.

hmm....in full res it looks similar to Venus, actually. Like squashed mountains.

You still see some of the etching features....but not so great. I would posit that you have water flow creating this feature.

reply to post by Jim Scott


oops.
Dang, I was wrong about the rocks.


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reply to post by Jim Scott


They were scrambling!

Sol 1064: Opportunity drove 4.21 meters (13.8 feet) around the Bay of Toil toward Cape Desire. The drive included a test to allow the rover to make unique track patterns for better determination of its position. The drive test had two legs: one in which the rover dragged the right front wheel for 5 centimeters (2 inches) and then drove on all 6 wheels for 55 centimeters (1.8 feet), and a second in which the rover drove 60 centimeters (24 inches) and then spun both front wheels 23 degrees, or approximately 5 centimeters (2 inches).

Sol 1066: Opportunity drove 25.38 meters (83.27 feet) away from the rim of Victoria Crater to continue testing and determining the best method for visual odometry -- determining the precise position by imaging the rover's tracks. The rover did a series of 5 tests, each covering 5 centimeters (2 inches) and each designed to produce a different pattern in the tracks. All of the driving was backward. During the first test, the rover created scuffs with both front wheels. During the second test, the rover wiggled the left wheel and scuffed with the right wheel. The third test was a "drunken sailor" test in which the rover drove in small curves. During the fourth test, the rover turned in place 10 degrees at specific intervals, or "steps." The fifth test was a combination of the previous four tests. www.jpl.nasa.gov...

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Very very nice find. I always enjoying looking at photos from the Moon.

reply to post by tsloan

Hi tsloan! Yeah, Norman has produced some great stuff! Take a look-see at this thread for more on that subject...

Gigantic Alien Craft Photographed By Cassini! NASA’s Cover-Up Blown?

Cheers!

the equally spaced mounds in the third picture look like that cool seasonal river thing which is in [Australia?] I think. Same sort of deal with perfectly spaced humps like that on both sides in a straight line...
All I could say is that it is more strong evidence of water on Mars

I read it a long time ago in a natural wonders book which I seem to have misplaced..




[edit on 5/7/09 by MoothyKnight]

these are definitely some of the better pics of the moon and Mars that i've seen on ATS!

i have a feeling we're going to be seeing something completely different soon...

...and it's not because i just watched some Monty Python skits

reply to post by mikesingh


Starred and Flagged. Mike! I love the images you find...very intriguing! They really make you wonder about artificial structures on the moon and mars and or the geological processes that created them. Why don't we commit to exploring some of these areas in greater detail! Thanks for posting!

reply to post by Jim Scott


Wow that was a nice find. Great pic. that does seem to to explain the first pic but the angles are so different that we can't be sure.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

In my mind there are two schools of thought that satisfy my questions re: Aristarchus.

1. It is a reactor. This may be more far fetched, but given the strangeness of the moon and its fabled history, it is a possibility I will not rule out. Maybe not even a reactor in a classical sense....perhaps a better terms would be "power supply".

I have similiar suspicions with regards to the role of Aristarchus.

Here is what NASA has theorized a lunar reactor may look like - the image is from a series titled LUNAR BASED NUCLEAR POWER CONCEPTS:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3a3731ae887c.jpg[/atsimg]
*This image was sponsored by NASA's Scientific and Technical Information Program (who are funded by Tax dollars - that you pay, out of your pocket...)

Again for comparison; Aristarchus (Thanks Pegasus!):
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ec2b997d2002.jpg[/atsimg]
www.thelivingmoon.com...

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In the 1950s Disney produced 'Man on the Moon" along with a series of videos featuring Von Braun

Disney even simulates a moon mission - complete with the discovery of an alien moon base, which the astronauts keep silent about



*This video was made prior to the launch of Sputnik.

The astronauts seem to be observing a similar set of protocols as would later be found in the Brookings Report...

Here is a frame taken from the Man on the Moon and featuring the 'base':

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e4618d9b57ea.jpg[/atsimg]

(thanks Pegasus!)

Did Internos Really Find a Space Shuttle on Mars?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/acd69102f4d4.jpg[/atsimg]

Or was it just birds?


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/df7ede9b0f74.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/67d149192cbf.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e60907319ae2.jpg[/atsimg]

*Now wait - it must just something on the lense right?

Just a bit of bugsplatter perhaps.

and we all know from the solar panels on one of our rovers; glass surfaces are self-cleaning whilst on Mars. Especially when their role is mission-critical, it is important that we allow NASA's rover to have a miracle or two


While I'm here, please enjoy this Martian rectilinear feature:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/929bc321e92a.gif[/atsimg]

Compared to Terrestrial ruins:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4aeaf1127bff.jpg[/atsimg]


An Ancient City under the Mud at Cydonia - Please note the unique qualities of the image, where both the surface AND buried structures are clearly contiguous with each other (basically, you can see both in the image)...This is indicative of something being buried and that something looks like one of our own cities when viewed from above:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/71e4fe076488.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c9db10c60379.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7365e1ced2ac.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d27efa161aab.jpg[/atsimg]

*Here is the rare Art Bell/Richard Hoagland interview about this Image, it's contents and the strange way that it was released (BAMF):

Cities on Mars (Connoisseurs only;-)

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reply to post by Exuberant1


Actually, it may have been Internos who "found" it (as far as ATS is concerned).
www.abovetopsecret.com...

In context (and without "enhancement" and "hints") it doesn't seem to look much like a shuttle. More like the plumes of ejected material common throughout the area.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/a1f6b809df68c849.gif[/atsimg]

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reply to post by Phage


Here is Mars - without "Enhancement".

The context in which this image was shown was a Press Conference involving JPL:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/62dc30590124.jpg[/atsimg]

NASA eventually corrected their "mistake" by making some 'minor' adjustments to the RGB:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1324ec4f0ff7.jpg[/atsimg]


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reply to post by Exuberant1


I find that square feature fascinating! Nice picture.