hey just a thought, the golf ball on mars, could be the same golf ball that Alan Shepard hit, when he "went to the moon" If thats true, i think we have a new record!

Note that these semicircular ‘tracks’ are going up-hill. The tracks seen going across are on the top of a ridge which is more or less flat. Not enough incline to make a stone roll across loose soil!

Note that the boulder tracks originate at the base of some high, rocky mountains. The curved track is not going uphill, but down into a shallow gully. The tracks going across are not on the top of a ridge but across that gully.

It looks like a large boulder fell from the mountain then either broke in two or dislodged another boulder near the base of the steep slope. The larger boulder had enough momentum to carry it across the gully while the smaller one did not and followed a curved path across and down the sandy gully. It looks like, upon reaching the other side of the gully, the large boulder rolled down the gully a bit before coming to a stop (the track is barely visible in the original jp2 image).


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The tracks photographed on the Moon in the Lunar Orbiter images were probably the one that really defied my skepticism.

But I'm sure that the resident disinformation agent debunker Mr. Phage will try his best to explain everything away.

The equally spaced objects are obviously not anything natural. You can take that to your grave.

Boulders, buzzards, bees, birds, balloons..... These debunkers will try to sell any excuse they can. Pay no attention to their blabber.

Note that these ‘tracks’ were photographed in 1967 BEFORE any probe landed on the Moon! So these cannot be explained away as tracks made by a Lunar Rover.

There are a number of those "tracks" on the steep slopes of Moltke Crater. If they were created by some kind of vehicle it would have to be a very odd one and a very sure footed one.

Note how the tracks start and end in the middle of nowhere. Note how the tracks converge and diverge. Note how one of the tracks goes across a crater while the other does not. Note how one of the tracks disappears then reappears.



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Another great thread for MikeSingh. You are an asset to the ATS community.

Not sure what to make of all of these pictures. I agree with the majority of the posters in this thread, that the most compelling pics are of the equidistant set of objects. Are there any other photos of this area from a different view? If it can be determined that these are in a straight line and equidistant from one another, then it would truly be a huge piece of evidence for intelligent life having been anywhere outside of earth.

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Don't hate on Phage, s/he's just doing his/her best to make sense of some highly subjective photos. I think most would agree that these pics are subject to interpretation.

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Looking at the pictures of "tracks" it's tempting to either dismiss them as image flaws or completely natural phenomena. The double track from 1967 was from the old emulsion negative film system, full of potential for symmetrical flaws. The overall view is a series of individual photographs joined, which accounts for the grid network of "seams." Doesn't quite account for the diagonal double track, but it does look geometrically related to the grid pattern, and we know that's artificial and not a feature on the lunar surface. There's no bouncing indicated where one track crossed the crater, and there should have been some disruption of the path when that happened, if it was a wheeled or tracked vehicle. Dip one side of your car into a pothole twenty feet across and ten feet deep and you'll get the same effect. That doesn't look like a vehicle track to me, you'd see more reaction to the environment.

The boulder tracks, with the "cleat" patterns, could be what an angular boulder would make in lunar soil, sharp edge, flat side alternating. What I don't get about these is why you don't see any evidence of bouncing or sliding. If you have spent time in the mountains and seen some rockfalls, you know they don't tumble symmetrically in a steady pattern. They bounce, leap unpredictably into the air, and try to knock the head off your shoulders. I don't know why boulders would act differently on the moon, but I suppose they might. I'd expect to see a skid mark at the end, when they lost momentum for rolling but hadn't quite stopped yet.

Jeez, lots of rules on this forum, I expect to be banned in record time.

Jimmyth

mike,
you HAVE to post the large image of the crater on the dark side that has the luminous blue light coming out of it. the light bounces off the crater. it's plain as day!
to me it's the single largest smoking gun that we've seen here yet.

i can't find it. but if i stumble across it, i'll post it. that one's a mind blower.
not some digital artifact. it was plain as day.

Mike, you've done it again. I wish I could contribute some findings of my own to add to yours and others, but alas, it's not my skill.

I really appreciate all the time it must have taken for you to search and and compile all this. Much respect, my friend.

I think you do more to shore up the argument in favor of "other" entities out there than many of the websites dedicated to same.

As always Mike, nicely done and now I gotta go back and S&F.
I do have a question/suggestion.
Has it ever occured to you, being you have waaaay more talented on the computer than I can ever hope to be, to superimpose these images over what the scientists think Mars may have looked like when it had water, as is universally agreed upon.
What I'm getting at is can we figure out from above experiment if these images would fit into "dry" Martians or "wet" Martians.
I hope that made sense, cause I think the reconciliation of these images with some type of shoreline would be a great help in learning what we are looking at.
I really do wish that I posessed the talent to accomplish this task but I don't.
I own a mind that doesn't function in cyber-arenas.