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Originally posted by devilwasp
americans id say cause most chinese wouldnt be bothered or know about it wi all the propaganda and stuff
Originally posted by Vanguard
sounds like wargames to me Devil
yeah they were. i thought i said that?
i recall one of some british planes against the germans - in the end the Brits thought they had won with some short range missiles but the germans said they shot them down beyond visual range.
ah but thats the royal airforce there diffrent there pigeons
The frigate might of just done its mission and found out at the end if it was successful or not - same with the harrier.
no seriosly it got through with out being destryoed and got home undamaged
the harrier thing im doubting cause frankly u need to be pretty good to get through ur anti air net
that is the USAN's speciality
....the backbone of the PLA surface fleet remains its 16 aging Luda-class destroyers (3,250 tons) and 30 Jianghu-class frigates (1,425 tons) that are largely inadequate to meet the requirements of modern warfare. The planned acquisition of two 7,940-ton Russian-built Sovremenny-class DDGs in the 2000 to 2001 period will improve the PLAN's surface-combatant capabilities. These units are likely to be equipped with an advanced SAN-7 air-defense system, the KA-28 Helix Helicopter, and SSN-22 cruise-missile technology. The PLAN's HQ-61 and HQ-7 systems are based on the French Crotale land-based surface-to-air missile system, and they do not provide surface units with an effective area-defense capability. This deficiency makes PLAN surface units extremely vulnerable to air attack.
Originally posted by All-Father
Vanguard, it's one thing to be patriotic, it's quite another to be deluded. You, O smoker of pole, are the latter. Chinese coastal patrols would quickly end any amphibious assaults, while the US aircraft carriers would find themselves at the bottom of the South China Sea. Coordinated, concentrated retaliation would end any potential air support for an invasion.
The US cannot simply... "knock down" "anything they build". By the time the US forces were in place to launch any offensive against strategic, mainland targets, be it from aircraft or missiles, they would be pulverized. US ships can't just appear out of nowhere. The Chinese would see them coming before they even had a chance to put any offensive action into motion. I say it again, those aircraft carriers would find themselves sitting on the seabed.
Also, if you're going to criticize me because I don't spell things like you do (for example, I spell colour properly, with the "u", and pronounce aluminium as... aluminium), then check your God damn grammar: it's "might have", not "might of", you assclown. We British, who INVENTED the very language you slaughter, spell it...
O-P-P-U-R-T-U-N-I-T-Y. Oppurtunity. You cultureless, crass, rat-like bastard.
And of course, you were right about one thing. I rule beyond your ability to grasp.
For the benefit of the entire human race, go wrap the stars and stripes around your throat and hoist it up to the top of the flagpole.
1. Can the U.S. invade China in the first place?
2. Are America's technological and firepower advantages helpful in the long run against 1 billion people?
3. How effective would U.S. airpower be?
4. Is it safe to say every Chinese citizen would fight?
5. Can the U.S. hold up against a modern military supported by guerrilla warfare?
6. Any other thoughts?
Originally posted by browha
Yes, but look at the US National Debt. 7.17 Trillion US, see earlier posts.
China? 80 Billion US. The US didnt have a reliance on the USSR for all of the high-tech aka blue chip companies' imports like it does on China..
All this has been discussed earlier
Originally posted by Ambient Sound
DW, you read the part saying that their surface fleet is extremely vulnerable to air attack, right? We are all about air attack. How long do you think those 46 ships are going to remain floating?
u need to find them first! u can blow them up just fine but the chinese are realy good at covert ops
A cruise missile has a range of 900 to 1300 nautical miles, which means we can target those ships from a pretty good distance away and there is little they can do. They will run out of missiles and boats long before we do.
oh really ? well u do know that china has lots of bays and rivers to hide ships in and frankly finding a single ship in over serveral thousand miles of coastline is not easy
Like I said, in 1988 (no reason it has changed enough to matter since then) the US was outspending China 30 to 1. I'll remind you that the US won the cold war the very same way. We outspent the enemy, and look at the USSR now. That's right. You can't because it no longer exists.
no one won the cold war . it was a rattleling of sabres by both sides and any way if any one won it was UK we got free tech form the usa! ha ha na na ! ok ill stop
u couldnt outspend china cause they have trade routes well outside ur reach thier borders are massive