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Originally posted by Flanker
Originally posted by Laxpla
Originally posted by browha
Think Viet Cong with Iraqi insurgents on occupied terroritry.
The Chinese army will probably end up 'invading' nearby countries to use as bases to operate out of
Or every farmer will be given a gun and 30 bullets
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
I found something very interesting recently. It's a speech to the U.S. Army War College by Lt. General Li Jijun, Vice President of the Academy of Military Science, PLA. In it, he describes what China's traditional military thinking has been, and has pointed out that the Chinese are not aggressive people. They are peace-loving (should not be confused with peaceful). This means that if they had to choose, they would rather live eternity in peace.
However, they are also a very unified people, ones that have a strong sense of their culture, tradition, history, and have lots of pride. For those who don't realize, China is 180 from America. China actually has a culture and it has nothing to do with music, movies, sports, cars, and McDonalds. China's culture is based on the very substance of how they live, not the material things. They are very proud of that and are willing to protect that to the very end.
One thing constant throughout history is how China has always been the defender, and almost never the aggressor. Therefore, their doctrine is based on the idea they would always be defending, never attacking. In fact, their military build-up over the last 20 years has shown very little sign of improving their offensive capability. They will fight the war on their homeland, and they will win the war on their homeland. For anybody to even suggest China would cowardly hide because of U.S. airpower is sadly mistaken.
The point? If somebody doesn't attack China, don't expect a war with them.
Originally posted by All-Father
One typo without proof-reading. I still rule.
Originally posted by devilwasp
only cause u rule the skies JUST NOW mad man u just wait we'll be back with aircraft someday!
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
It's actually a PDF file for download on fas.org (awesome website):
Look under Chinese Sources for Traditional Military Thinking.
Check out everything else. Very interesting because China's miltiary strategy has only been revised, but little has been changed.
1. Can the U.S. invade China in the first place?
Yes. The US can invade, but that's not to say that such an invasion would be successful.
2. Are America's technological and firepower advantages helpful in the long run against 1 billion people?
I wouldn't consider them "advantages". China has as much firepower, and has many contingencies in place to undermine US technological means. Also, I've seen a lot of people quite simply bullsh**ting about what manpower and firepower China has available. China has 2 million soldiers? That would be false. China has over 200 million men ready to be deployed immediately in the event of war. That is 80% of the ENTIRE population of the United States. On top of this, they can muster almost another 200 million men for service. This is, of course, exluding women, who make up a significant portion of the Chinese military/security forces.
3. How effective would U.S. airpower be?
Given landmass, and the sheer logistics on the side of China, from their air force to their anti-aircraft measures, The United States could not establish any kind of air dominance.
Also, considering the fact that Chinese patrol boats will be helping sabotage any Marine units or naval vessels trying to secure a beach-head offensive, or amphibious operations, the meat of the Chinese navy could be committed to destroying the US aircraft carriers. That is if China's missiles haven't already done so.
4. Is it safe to say every Chinese citizen would fight?
Yes. Very safe to say that. The Chinese are culturally very self-contained, and patriotic. They wouldn't take kindly to having their country invaded by dull foreigners.
5. Can the U.S. hold up against a modern military supported by guerrilla warfare?
No. Absolutely not. I shouldn't even have to explain this, but I will. In Vietnam, which is a tiny country in comparison with China, guerrilla warfare forced the US to recall its forces (and no, I won't even discuss the advances in technology from then to now because they just would not be sufficient). Given the fact that the Americans would already be getting slaughtered by the Chinese forces, due to the latter's sheer numbers and knowledge of their home country, guerrilla warfare could quickly cripple US forces from behind the lines and completely disrupt supply-lines.
6. Any other thoughts?
Given economic factors, the United States, as a country, would collapse into bankruptcy as a result of a war with China. In case you weren't aware, the United States is currently in 7 quadrillion dollars (that is $7,000,000,000,000,000) of debt. The cost of maintaining such a war, once waged, would utterly destroy the US economy.
Let me also point out that China, whose culture differs quite a lot from America and Europe, has not and will not be "infected" with capitalism. As a country, they have already INTEGRATED effective capital-generating policies, and are a rapidly-growing economy, given the opening of Tibet to new business oppurtunities.
Taking into account geographical factors, the US could not maintain a parity of forces. China differs from province to province. It has everything from jungles and cities, to desolate regions like the Gobi Desert, and freezing mountainous regions.
To address another popular point on this thread: an embargo would not work because China will have stockpiles of food, will be prepared to rely on its own resources, and at the very least, it can gain relief from North Korea, with whom China shares a BORDER (even though I'm willing to acknowledge North Korea herself has had problems with food shortages). Given China's mainly rural nature, it would be easy to have as much food as is NECESSARY, although I'll concede there'd be few if any commodities.
As if I had to point it out, China would own the United States forces, and then promptly retaliate with justified vengeance, swiftly and brutally. With the loss of morale suffered by the people of the United States at seeing their aggressor forces destroyed, and without the coordiantion or reference to begin guerrilla warfare, it would be only a matter of time before the United States of America became the United Bitches of China.
Thank you for asking those questions, dude. Braniacs like me live for these oppurtunities.