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reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:20 PM by StevenDye
reply to post by TasteTheMagick



No, humans have always eaten meat. We were clearly designed to, whether by evolution of by the creationist theory. Therefore eating meat is fine.

A flower is different, it is never going to become sentient. The baby will. So I apologise, I guess my definition was wrong.

Sentience does matter, it just doesn't mater if you are sentient at the time or not, if you will one day become sentient...then it is wrong.


And no, you didn't say everyone SHOULD kill their child. But I don't think they should have that choice at all. It shouldn't be their choice to make.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by StevenDye]


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:25 PM by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by StevenDye



You can have that belief, I respect and accept that yours differs from mine. However, it is not right for YOUR beliefs to be legislated and forced on me. The Catholic church tries to go around a tell everyone how to live their lives when they truly have no right to do so. Who are they that there opinion matters over anything else?


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:29 PM by FlyersFan
If abortion isn't wrong, then what is?" - St. Mother Teresa of Calcutta.

St. Mother Teresa said this to the American Supreme Court -

"Human rights are not a privilege conferred by government," she said. "They are every human being's entitlement by virtue of his humanity. The right to life does not depend, and must not be contingent, on the pleasure of anyone else, not even a parent or sovereign. The Constitutional Court of the Federal Republic of Germany recently ruled: 'The unborn child is entitled to its right to life independently of its acceptance by its mother; this is an elementary and inalienable right which emanates from the dignity of the human being.'

St. Mother Teresa said this to the Cairo Conference -

"I have said often, and I am sure of it, that the greatest destroyer of peace in the world today is abortion. If a mother can kill her own child, what is there to stop you and me from killing each other? The only one who has the right to take life is the One who has created it. Nobody else has that right: not conference, no government."

And also this at that same Conference -

"If there is a child that you don't want or can't feed or educate, give that child to me. I will not refuse any child. I will give a home, or find loving parents for him or for her. Weare fighting abortion by adoption and have given thousands of children to caring families. And it is so beautiful to see the love and unity that a child brings to a family."

and St. Mother Teresa's words at the National Prayer Breakfast -

"By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems. And, by abortion, that father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. The father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion."


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:30 PM by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by FlyersFan



It doesn't matter if the fetus plays with it's does or any of that in the womb. It is growing inside an organ that belongs to the mother. ESSENTIALLY it is a parasite:

parasite noun
1. an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host [ant: host]
2. a follower who hangs around a host (without benefit to the host) in hope of gain or advantage [syn: leech]


The mother will CONTINUALLY have the jurisdiction over her own uterus no matter WHAT else is inside it. It is still HER uterus and NO ONE elses. How do I know the fetus is not a sentient being? How do YOU know it is? You don't

A fetus is a growth and until birth it doesn't have ANY choice in any matter.

EDIT: I know you're going to post all that crap about Mother Teresa and that preacher that thinks abortion is genocide. They can think that all they like, they shouldn't be able to tell anyone else what to do with their organs.

[edit on 1/25/09 by TasteTheMagick]


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:32 PM by FlyersFan
More Information -

I started this thread four years ago -

Abortion is Black Genocide


Video - Obama, Martin Luther King Jr, and Planned Parenthood



Black pastor warns Obama

Black pastor warns Obama not to preside over genocide of blacks through abortion


reply posted on 25-1-2009 @ 12:38 PM by TasteTheMagick
reply to post by FlyersFan



Abortion is NOT black genocide.

There are plenty of white women that get abortions.
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