In an unnamed diocese in Africa (Reuters, March 21, 2001) a Mother Superior had complained to her bishop that parish priests were continually sexually abusing her nuns. Finally, after 20 of them became pregnant and she demanded a stop to it, the bishop did what any good bishop would do—he demoted her.

Yes Reuters is an unreliable source.

The record for the most simultaneously pregnant nuns in a single Catholic community stands at an impressive 29.

They tried to get the Nuns to use Birth Control, which is even funnier.

According to the Kansas City Star, AIDS has claimed the lives of some 400-800 American priests.

Proof that celibacy causes AIDS.

Dallas Morning News investigation revealed that 103 of 170 Roman Catholic diocese bishops and all eight archdiocese cardinals had been somehow involved in covering up sex crimes and proliferating the problem.

Yes, that is a very small percentage indeed.

To illustrate the surprising scope of sexual activity and abuse amongst Catholic clergy in America, the 1990 Doyle-Moulton-Peterson Report, headed by Canon lawyer Fr. Thomas Doyle cites the following round numbers:

Of 47,000 American priests . . .

12,000 sexually involved with adult women

6,000 sexually involved with adult men

3,000 sexually abusing minors

These numbers do not include paternity suits (Deadbeat Fathers for fathers) numbering in the thousands, priest-nun rape, impregnated nuns, and multiple incidences of forced abortion.

Sounds like quite the party.

Yes, the Church is a bastion of morality to be sure. I agree it is fine for the church or anyone to express their views, however it becomes wrong when you try to legislate your views and force others to abide by them. If the Pope doesn't "publicly" like abortion, thats fine. If people try to take his words and force them upon others through legislation, that is where the problem lies. The Pope would do better to ask all his followers to adopt a child. If every Christian would adopt one child, then there would be no orphans anywhere in the world, and every mother thinking about whether to abort, or to give their child up for adoption, might have an easier choice to make. Trying to legislate abortion out of existence will never work. People will always find a way and in the long run, more people will suffer.

Remember, only GOD can judge, not the Pope. So, lets leave it up to God, and he can sort it out when people arrive at the Pearly Gates. In the meantime, I want to know when the next Vatican rave is going to be held, because those folks know how to swing!

Topic of this thread should be

"Vatican Pleased with Obama. Please stop killing our rape victims!!!


Screw the Vatican and there backwards crap rules.. History has shown time and again that they will ALWAYS be at least 100 years behind the rest of the world .

Hey holocaust denier . Were sry you can come home now .. you know as long as you don't support abortion .. .

They supported the holocaust . But not abortion what a crock!

BTW:EDIT: The Vatican isn't in the US .. So freedom of speech and OUR rules don't apply here . Same AS our rules OBVIOUSLY don't affect them . As ABORTION IS LEGAL!!!
Cant have it both ways SORRY!

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Well god forbid we allow religious belief to cloud common sense. I mean, that's never happened before????

Why does the Vatican think it's they're job to "save" everybody?

Come on now, this issue should have been resolved DECADES ago. People should have the right to choice, whether it's YOUR belief or not.

Originally posted by TasteTheMagick
I knew it wouldn't be long before the Vatican had to say some such nonsense. If anyone advocates letting the people exercise their own free will and make their own choices, you can bet that the Vatican will be following closely along complaining about how it's wrong.

You miss the point. The point is that the US govt will be collecting our tax money to pay for abortions overseas. I am against abortion, and my money is being taken from me for this use although I consider it morally wrong. There is nothing wrong with the church voicing its concern - it is actually responsible to, think of the Catholics in the US who are being forced to contribute to something they feel is so morally wrong?

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Come on now, this issue should have been resolved DECADES ago. People should have the right to choice, whether it's YOUR belief or not.

This isn't a question of right to choice. That WAS resolved decades ago - look up Roe v. Wade. This is a question of who pays for it. Why should I pay for it? That money could be used for toilet paper in a Detroit School and that would be a bettter use of it.

May I ask who cares about what the Vatican thinks?

I'm just glad that they're condemning Obama. Why? We've had a President for the last 8 years who thought he could talk to God. He went to the pope several times and they established somewhat of a relationship.

I'm glad Obama has finally pissed the pope off. That way without the pope influencing our President we can finally have somewhat of a separation between church and state.

I'm pro-abortion. A women should be able to choose to abort her child if she needs to. Sometimes you know situations don't work out as they want to.

Just a reminder that.

Religions work through mass control of a populas through fear and redemption if they follow a set religions rules.

If people think freely for themselves then religion loses control and therefore becomes weaker.

Religions like people to follow there rules and do not like people to be able to think for themselves.

Alot of ATSers despise the Catholic Church, but while many here are discussing the NWO and the Global Banking Empire many Catholic are openly acting against these powers with social credit and backing monetary reform

www.michaeljournal.org...

many in the Catholic Church view the NWO as the satanic power that will usher in the time of the AC and the destruction of Rome, and even the current pope has shown by the name he took aligning himself with the prophecies of St Malachy, that he believes the time is near and that he will be the second last pope in history
“Gloria olivae’ Benedict

www.catholic-pages.com...

the infiltration of the Church by the NWO illuminate masons is well documented and it saddens my much the evil they have done while in the Church, all i can say for those evil monsters that pretend to be Catholic priests is that they should read the words of Christ
" he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the deepest ocean."

I believe the Church will never shift on abortion and other moral teachings no matter how violent and evil the world becomes, even if threatened with its destruction

As a person in a troubled world i can see the rationale for "depopulation', but I must ask is overpopulation the real problem or is it that the few greedy individuals horde all the money and recourses for their own ambitions and intentions? Leaving the many to live in oppressed squalor
but the majority of abortions are in affluent western countries, who apparently have to import people from third world nations because of labor shortages
if people cannot see abortion as national and cultural suicide for western nations well then your already intoxicated on the UN BS propaganda and your once peaceful western nation will soon be an Islamic war zone.

as a Catholic though i can see the madness in a mentality of "if its unwanted then its not wrong to kill it"
Society has already given in to this mentality, and even though abortion on grounds of compassion is what led the West to institute the act it has become abortion on the grounds of convenience
The numbers speak for themselves, over 50 million abortions every year, over half a billion in thirty years of the practice, more life destroyed by abortion then life destroyed in every war in history!

If this mentality becomes universally acceptable without opposition, where does it stop?

Elderly, disabled, disadvantaged, the sick (be it physical or mental)

Why not destroy these unproductive, inconveniences?
If the practice of destroying human life because it is not wanted becomes government instituted it wont be long until something reminiscent of the Hitler’s NAZI Germany or Stalin’s USSR become emergent… actually it already has become government instituted so not long now…
All the vehement supporters of abortion would be only to willing to support the destruction of any group, institution or persons that point out the evil they commit, your UN NWO puppets good luck with your insane murderess government that will only turn on you when you become an inconvenience.

A binding vote is to be held to ban abortions. Anyone wishing to vote YES to the ban, must first adopt a child before they can vote. No adoption=no right to vote yes. You must agree to cover all costs of razing the child and care for all it's needs for life, healthy baby or not, and you can get no assistance from the state.

I wonder how many Christians would step up to the plate. In Theory they would all say yes, but in reality the number of Christians who reach out to needy children is far below those who scream for making abortion illegal. Celibacy does not work. Denying access to contraception does not work. Purity pledges are proven not to lower the rates of teen sexuality and often lead to ignorance about sexuality and reproduction.

I wonder what kind of person would deny a womans right to choose, free from religious dogma, and tell her to give the child up for adoption, and then refuse to adopt a child themselves. Hypocrite?

Name ONE orphanage that is funded by the Vatican? The Vatican is quite wealthy after all.

I have worked with Orphans and have never seen the Pope do anything for them.