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Originally posted by converge
I don't agree with people voting down the other ideas, but everyone's free to do whatever they want.
As long as then they don't start whining that others have been voting 'ours' down.
I am not talking about an attack or anything of the sort. I am talking about a bare-minimum. If any of this is real at a bare-minimum and the government had full disclosure, it would be an admission that our airspace is being violated, our citizens abducted, and there is nothing we can do about it.
How would that revelation be responsible?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
It's in the best interest of those who govern to disclose what's known (and I'm not saying they know much if anything) simply to lessen accountability.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
I have. It seems the Disclosurists are more concerned with an agenda than the truth. They are yet another group that thinks they have all the answers, and believe the UFO phenomenon is akin to an episode of Star Trek. Nor have they considered that if there is a cover-up, then the aliens themselves are active participants.
Originally posted by Winsor
Sen an e-mail with the link and some info to everyone at Coast to Coast. Suggest other people send some as well to increase the likelihood that it gets mentioned on the show.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
I find it amusing that you're accusing others of gross mischaracterization, when you are avoiding the argument.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
If you're legitimately missing the point, that's one thing, but I don't think that's the case based on your general level of discourse.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
Even if there's little to nothing that can be done at the very least people have the right to discuss and understand fully what's happening to them.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
Think of all the abductees out there. If people inside the government are aware that this has been happening, and they've continued to cloud the issue, any sane person would agree that those citizens have had their "safety" and "happiness" compromised not only by this non-terrestrial presence but through obfuscation introduced by government secrecy.
Originally posted by Xtraeme
If that's the case and the government has prevented its citizens from addressing the most fundamental aspects of their well-being then they've defaulted for possibly 60 years now on their most basic responsibility.
Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Your logic works boths ways. Unless YOU have done a survey of alien culture, weaponry, etc... You have no way of knowing whether they even 1) pose a threat 2) can't be deterred.
Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
For all you know, they are completely harmless and the government allows them to move about without consequences. Oh, I don't know, for technological benefit's sake??
Originally posted by RFBurns
Again it wont matter how smart he is or how much he buys into the ET/UFO coverup. Rest assured, he will, if not already, get intel information about some of it, but as far as him actually being able to initiate the release of this tech, thats something entirely different.
LOL..what the heck does NJ and its wind turbine have to do with the price of tea in China? Wind turbines have been around for over 15 years. There are many states where the wind is abundant that are putting in wind turbines to augment the coal and natural gas fired power plants. Thats been going on for some time.
Unless the congress makes a change by hautling the black op funding and re-initiates a law to regulate and oversee black operations, and what it has and knows where all that money is going to, disclosure wont happen at all, just the good ol drip drip steady as the leak goes deal.
Sorry, but thats the facts. All this effort will be for nothing unless its directed where it needs to be directed, structured specifically to get congress to change the laws so that all this hidden technology is not outside of the legal system, and then and only then will the president, no matter who it is, will be able to act on getting it out into the public.
But hey...this isnt the first time this kind of effort has been attempted. But just reading through this thread and the change.gov site, its going to end up being a futile effort and 6 months down the road, or heck even a year, everyone will remember what I said here, that it wont get us any closer to disclosure because the effort is being directed at the wrong place.
Take that to the bank people. This needs to be directed at congress. This needs to be done professionaly, not blasted on a public free for all video site and 2000 votes. Your going to need ALOT more than that, like 250 million votes or more, then you will have some clout to get noticed.
It wouldnt hurt either to do this in a manner that gets you on the front page of the NY Times and on major networks and high profile talk programs.
Good luck..its gonna need it.
Cheers!!!!