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Originally posted by theendisnear69
Ok I was wrong, big deal.
I've gone a day on one MRE while I was an eagle scout.
Can't complain I wasn't forced to join.
Just like the military
Originally posted by theendisnear69
I screwed up the economy? I'm sorry but it was your generation who so valiantly screwed it up for me. I haven't had enough time to screw it up yet.
Originally posted by theendisnear69
As for my career, I am currently in school to become an EMT. I figured saving peoples lives is a better job than killing them.
Originally posted by theendisnear69
I'm sorry that not wanting to kill people for no damn good reason is ignorant. Yup i'm just a kid. I don't know anything about life. But going to Iraq would enlighten my whole world wouldn't it? It would give me the life skills I need!
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
You are correct that I called Lt. Watada a coward, and of course it should be no surprise to you that I did so. Lt. Watada is a coward. There are other terms that mean the same thing and are certainly more colorful, but they've really cracked down on profanity here on ATS, so I will not be able to adequately accommodate you in that aspect.
Those combat rules are not as you called, "machissimo" BS. But then again, I would bet good money that you've never actually participated yourself. By participated, I mean splattered with gore, bleeding yourself, numb from adrenaline shock, standing over the bodies of those you just killed, daring any other enemies to show themselves. Taunting, you're so mad.
Now, maybe you would like to go back to your UN soldier buddies who fed you this line of crap and query them as to their precise proximity to the fighting.
I think your soldier friends are FOS. All the way to the top.
Me Lai occurred many years ago, and murder of civillians is not a uniquely American capablility. It should be noted that upon the invasion of Europe in 1944, once American and British Commonwealth troops were nearby, a lot of suddenly bold "good citizens" of every liberated nation rounded up former "collaborators" and such, and executed them on the spot without any semblance of a trial. The reaon?
Same reason as the troops at Me Lai. Long-term frustration.
And your term suggeting the US Army is a "facist" army? My, my. I have good money I would wager that if the US Army had stayed home in WWII, you'd be speaking German right now.
Doing for others what they can't do for themselves is not a completely selfish endeavor.
A good thing to remember.
Originally posted by mf_luder
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
Finally - to futher w/ the "Our president doesn't support us" ignorance - how the hell do you know we all want to be over there in the first place? But - oh - wait - not wanting to go to Iraq wouldn't fit in w/ your brain washed theory would it?
[edit on 28-1-2009 by mf_luder]
Originally posted by mf_luder
reply to post by theendisnear69
I just reenlisted again until 2014 "for the money." Until you people who are so gallantly staying at home instead of joining the military can fix the economy, I'll have my 3 squares and a cot* regardless of how bad the job market/economy gets.
I got mine.
*Expression. ACTUALLY - I get housing for me and my wife, full dental and medical coverage for free - free education up to a master's degree at any college I want - free electricity - free water - money for food AND a paycheck. So - 3 squares and a cot is a little understatement. I don't have a problem staying in for the "money." Thank you.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
It may come as a suprise to you, but most people in the world have something called moral, look it up if you have to.
Originally posted by SuperViking
Maybe because leaving a nation with such resources as the US has would be like a person without skin? But what do I know, I support the Iraq invasion.
Originally posted by odd1out
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
Actually it has a lot more to do with a lack of decent training. I was in during the eighties and my brother was career. The Army watered down training to the point that you could longer do more than 25 push-ups at a time!!! Don't be too hard on the boys...someone will call a congressman. The schools like JOTC, Ranger School, Airborne, Air Assualt got to be pretty easy by the time I left the military. You couldn't even cuss singing cadence during PT runs, they shortened maximum run distances. etc... Then they let woman in...The training is at girly level in the US Army. My brother was a drill Sargent and he said it was pathetic how prissy it had become since 1978 he went through basic training...
Anyone that claims that 90% of the enlisted ranks isn't there for the money, or for the institutionalization is DELUSIONAL. VERY few men are true soldiers...Warriors, well that's another thing. A soldier is a ROBOT, not a warrior.
Originally posted by SuperViking
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
It may come as a suprise to you, but most people in the world have something called moral, look it up if you have to.
Where have you lived? Definitely sound like someone who's spent a lot of time in the West and nowhere else.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
You just admitted to beeing a hired killer without any care for any cause....
One more time; you kill other humans for money!!!
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
I don't like getting personal in any discussion, but you sir is a sick puppy and one of the reasons that we live in a world of war.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
Dooper has been seeing too many action movies I guess, I used to love them to when I was a kid, but lo and behold, I grew up and developed a consciousness. Any soldier I've ever talked to never used that kind of language about battle situations, it's like it's taken straight from some cheesey ww2 book.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
You just admitted to beeing a hired killer without any care for any cause....
One more time; you kill other humans for money!!!
So, you think guys that join the military should do it for free???
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
I don't like getting personal in any discussion, but you sir is a sick puppy and one of the reasons that we live in a world of war.
Sick puppy? Because he's decided to make a career of the military? And what's wrong with that? As I said before, there are a fair amount of career fields that don't even come close to fighting.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
Originally posted by SuperViking
Maybe because leaving a nation with such resources as the US has would be like a person without skin? But what do I know, I support the Iraq invasion.
Kind of off topic, but what the deuce:
With such resources....
You thinking about the 2.400.000.000.000$ foreign debt?
You know consuming stuff isn't a resource, producing is.