So... Who's Going to Join the Zeitgeist Movement??, page 5

reply to post by Rufuz

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good because it's not just the us that has to make a stand... and btw i love your signature

I am posting the following as my first post on TheZeitgeistMovement when it's up, but you guys can read it ahead of time. Basically a personal reflection of how watching Addendum has changed me, and what I think the best plan forward for the movement to move towards a resource-based economy is:

Post-Addendum Reflections & Planning, by Yarcofin

reply to post by newagent89

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Which part are you referring to? All of them? Just the religious aspect? 9-11? The Feds, INF? Which part?

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Cool Yarcofin I will check out your thread I love your avatar btw!


[edit on 6-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

reply to post by Shocka

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I must admit I did like the video, and it brought me to a higher understanding of things.. Yet this is part of the cycle of thought!
Some things open our eyes, and bring us to new states of mental awareness!

However I can not say I belive in this Venus project.
That is taking one system and replacing it with another system of control.

I do not think the Venus project is within reason right now.
It sounds wonderful and great from the outside.. Yet I am not a drone, and I refuse to be part of something that is set up such as that.

That would in essence turn us all into drones. To become part of a system of control..
No I think much work needs to be done with the current system we have.
It can be reformed.. But its going to need a total change of energy and people!

I do highly suggest this video to all my friends and family.. However the Venus project is something that doesnt sit well with me.
As it sounds to good to be true..
And I trust my heart on that.. I know you can not BS a BS'er..
And if something sounds to good to be true.. It more than likely is just that.

Has anybody seen this vid "In Its Image"?
video.google.com...#

[edit on 7-10-2008 by red_leader]

reply to post by ThePetrus

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That's the one question I had as well. The video said "90%" of all jobs would be eliminated, but someone still needs to be repairing and replacing this technology. Although Fresco claims self-erecting buildings, so maybe machines will be able to fix themselves as well.

The way you say it makes it sound corrupt, but I think in a resource-based economy it would be the opposite. Right now menial jobs are looked down upon for being dirty and crude. In a resource-based economy it would be the people willing to do these tasks out of generosity that would be elevated to a higher status. People in our society already do volunteer work so I think it would be a similar approach.

I also see difficulty in how we as individuals can move to a resource-based economy while we are still neck-deep in the monetary system. Here is what I propose though:

I have always had the desire and fantasy of living in a self-sufficient farming commune in the wilderness. Sort of like the “Back-To-The-Land Movement” of the '60s and '70s. I have been actively learning how to plant and grow crops, participating in a “survivalist” discussion boards, etc for quite some time now.

Ideally this group would be at least a dozen individuals in a small group with the same goals, but potentially as many as one hundred to literally form a small Zeitgeist-inspired village.

Upon first glance, this plan would appear to be a step backwards for civilization rather than forward. However, this would not be a
community like the Amish that is devoid of technology and modern ways. We would quickly begin using state-of-the-art technology... collecting rainwater and other sources for water use, heating and lighting with solar, wind, and other alternative energies completely “off the grid”, farming using a combination of organic techniques as well as modified farm vehicles to run on clean energy, and many many others.

The group would consist of a wide variety of people, preferrably each having one or more specialized skills. Here is a small sample:
- Construction, woodworking, metalworking, and other trades
- Extensive knowledge of electronics and other complex technologies.
- The arts, specifically philosophy and music
- Farming, (domesticated plants and animals), irrigation
- Knowledge of edible plants and animals, methods of harvesting each
- Culinary skills
- Education (everyone has something to contribute)
- Clothing creation and mending
- General manual labour / willingness to work hard

How To Proceed

Stage 1: Meeting
Informal meetings and creation of like-minded groups, facilitated primarily through thezeitgeistmovement.com in the beginning. Public advertising and activism. Through all stages of progress towards a resource-based economy, we must keep strong public communication open, lest we begin to appear to the mainstream as a cult.
Stage 2: Thinking
Serious consideration and discussion of creating something similar to “The Venus Project”
Stage 3: Planning
Formally gathering a group and planning of this society. We are the pioneers.
Stage 4: Pooling Resources & Establishing
Pooling of funds and resources, purchase and establishment of land for this purpose. Money will need to be set aside for paying legal fees, buying out people who wish to leave the group, etc. Although we are establishing a small resource-based economy, keep in mind that in the beginning we will still be occupying a larger monetary-based economy and will need to abide by their rules.
Stage 5: Work
Huge amount of hard, manual work. Some group members will want to be bought out and leave the group, others may join and contribute. We will need some form of bare-minimum income generation (most likely through the sale of crops) to pay taxes.
Stage 6: Automation
Eventually (realistically, after one full generation or longer), all manual work will pay off and be replaced by technological automation, with the exception of minimal repairs and upkeep. Energy will harness itself passively, plants will automatically be sewn, watered, and harvested, etc.
Stage 7: Spread and Revolution
Likely to start at Stage 4, but will really pick up after Stage 6. When one colony gets over a certain size, it will split into a separate group. More and more groups will continue to spread out from the original groups all over the world. These communities will interact and share amongst themselves, until eventually they are the majority of the world and they all link to establish one enormous resource-based economy. There will be enormous turmoil at or before this point as the monetary-based society attempts to hold on against the resource-based economy.
Stage 8: The Age of Enlightenment (100+ years from now)
Once all or most of the world has shifted to the resource-based economy, true growth and progress can begin as never before seen, in a way that will make the Industrial Revolution look like a joke. Things such as fully-automated medical procedures, free global wireless internet access, free emission-free high-speed global travel, and other things we cannot yet even fathom will be possible.

Things I haven't yet considered
- How the group(s) will govern themselves and make descisions that affect everyone
- How groups will interact, if they will have a central constitution.
- How to deal with crime
- How to deal with corruption
- How to avoid a cult atmosphere
- How to deal with lazy freeloading people

reply to post by dunwichwitch

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I agree with you friend, but i would think he is beginning this movement because.. well i...
go to this youtube video:

au.youtube.com...

and look at the comments on it.
A division is appearing.. between those who don't want to embrace change and those who do. People who embrace a willful ignorance for the fear change imparts on the stability of their idea of own identity.. those people are destroying the world. Nothing could infuriate me more, than those who choose a bath that is the entire opposite to that of one which quests for truth.
These people.. they will not change. They are the people who built the atom bomb.. they are the people who started all of this. He is starting a movement so that those who truly have the best interest of this world and every living being within it at heart, can overcome this diversity.

His movement does not require you to even slightly abandon your own free will, in fact, it asks of you nothing more than to volunteer to inspire that same ambition in others, the want for free will, the want for freedom.
He is encouraging mobilization and change, revolution.
World wide, unconditional love, to make this change, it so save the world.
I will join it with my heart and soul in the way i personally see most fit.
I will better this world in any way i can.

Peace out friends.

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