An idea that is developed and put into action is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.

Buddha

The current system is corrupt, Zeitgeist holds a very important message, Our entire time period will be looked at with disgust by the people of the future, only those that stand for truth and act with selfless compasion will be remembered.

The aim must be to step out of, and permanently aside, from this current system. This economic disaster and meltdown, with possible 911 type events and war, is to bring about their corporate nwo global dictatorship. Of course most people aren't going to connect the dots and see it. But so far survivalists have this every man for himself attitude that is frightening. Any time people react with violence it further justifies their actions. Note, there truly are exceptions, but the confusion happens instantly, and in that confusion they paint a different public opinion.
This movement needs to start with group meetings showing this film and going far further in communities. It needs to be a group, not one that needs any money to contribute and accepts small manageable donations from its members and the public. Two dollars to one is like another person's hundred, we live in vast inequality within our system.
We need to form an active group in every community that advertises and puts out door to door invitations at times, and creates its own websites and even local internet radio, that is there not only to wake people up, and some will, but to start and prepare and coordinate activities. There is no reason for lack of preparedness now. Even if things don't happen as thought, having back up always to any meltdown or disaster is a good thing, and a worthy group to have around. They don't just have to be for the radicals.
This group should concern itself with many aspects such as collecting knowledge and pooling things to build and store ham radios, off the grid electronics, tents and tools to build cob style houses. Seeds. It should teach people to start getting heritage seeds and grow even an indoor container garden. Water purifiers. This should include educator slightly older children and get them to start working at building things. It should include lists of people who will help should the aged, the handicapped, the mothers with young children, the impaired suddenly have their base support cut off. This is going to need organized care, tents and lodging. Its time to make the people at the top look like the mismanaged fools they are and start to redo it. While land can be bought, if enough people who have money can, it should be pooled up. But most and many do not have that option so if a real emergency happens the protocol to group people up and form whatever fledging tent communities will be paramount, with food and water being paramount, and whatever medical we can do. Think about it, its a big job. It will take getting the message out in the community that preparing for this and a new resource based world can be created.

The real irony is this kind of approach, in case of emergencies, should have already been in place all along, also with the radical thinkers who have studied alternate community planning, so a resource community would already be on the table. People don't have to be convinced of everything, but they'll keep it in mind even if they swear up a storm when they hear it. Also, theres a lot of teenage kids who would benefit from some mentoring programs. Groups for teens that teach them some physics and ham radio building and operation, and survival skills, and projects that benefit whole communities could be a part of it.

Edit: distilleries can be readied for construction and kits for mods on cars. Rotting leaves and debris is abundant, and it actually creates a lot of excess co2 in the atmosphere as it is. It also can make clean alchohol to run vehicles in emergencies. Alchohol and electric conversion kits make sense for development in emergency planning, because eventually, if things get really bad, groups will need to meet up. A new world can emerge!

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I am sorry, but the Venus project is not the answer. Please read what they indend to do. Its called what are we about on the web page , left top corner of the page. In times of these, as has happened in the past, movements and governments are formed that are not quite as good as people think they are , as in Germany durring the last depression. Now if we as people as I am in the USA use the government laws that we have in our founding fathers wishes then all this money, food, and social probems would not be here. iTs quite YOUR fault as YOU put these people in power to guide the country with there special interest. Like I said the Venus project although it has good ideas it leaves so much out that can be interputed as a matrix. Who will control those who are in power in the project. If its the people, then we will have the same problem again, as it is the people who have power, not the government, or do we leave it to people who made this project?. So many unanswered questions. So much they have said that make me think it is a nightmare.

I 100% agree with mystiq. If you haven’t mystiq's post two above mine, then please do so now. Think Global Act Local. We need a craigslist-esque site where we can click on cities and locations near our own and we can find out what is happening near us. Local organization I feel is most important.

I also agree that the venus project isn't the solution. I think that zeitgeist is great and that the movement allows like-minded people to better organize and that's great, but the venus project is just one idea and it's projecting too far ahead. Right now lets just use the zeitgeist website as a springboard to get organized. We all agree that the system is outdated and that we can change and better society, lets see where this takes us rather than jumping off one bandwagon right onto the next.

I'm all for the movement and all that, but there's one thing I think I should point out:

Does anyone else find it ironic that a thread on the revolutionary movement away from materialism and consumerism is plagued with word-linked advertisements from hordes of companies, including Exxon, debt-buyers, and loan-makers?

I just had to laugh at that.

To me the zeitgeist m8 is much more similar to linux than to Windows...

A resource economy with no money is the only thing I will spend my life working towards and any others I volunteer to due to the world still enduring hell and poverty due to the greed of some. Also, it is exactly like linux open source versus propriety operating systems and software. That is something Michael St. Clair speaks about. Project Venus is one of many of the new villages cropping up already that are like that. Search for Michael's website. This man is also a contactee.
This is the only solution for the future.

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