So... Who's Going to Join the Zeitgeist Movement??, page 2

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

SAF here.

Not only that, but, the vision put forth by the Venus project is, while socialist in a sense, most definitely NOT Communist. People who use those terms interchangably are ignorant of their respective meanings.

Communism is all about a market economy whose price structure and manufacturing are controlled by, for lack of better term, "soviets." Each soviet was originally intended to be a council of workers, as dreamt up by Marx. These councils exhibit dictatorial control over who produces what, how much the prices will be, and how much people get paid for their efforts.

OK, you say, then TVP is a kind of participatory economy (ParEcon). Yes, in some sense, it is. As such, the control exhibited by the soviets now is relegated to consumers and producers equally, with price mitigation through what's called "iteration facilitation boards," or IFBs. However, even this falls way short of that proposed by Jacque.

The Resource-based Economy (RBE) is, structurally, indifferent what-so-ever from already existing automated inventory management systems. You have a central computer with monitors on all the resources and inventory necessary for society, and the software is responsible for managing the flows of resources all about. Sounds overly complex? It'll never work? Investment banks disagree; in fact, the system works so well that it's virtually impossible for bankers to track money flow. This is one of the reasons why we had the credit bubble burst -- who, anywhere on Wall Street, could possibly know that the money they receive is in the form of bad loans? You'd have to walk the paper trail, so to speak, which takes time away from day-trading. Now, all you need to do is replace fictitious money with real-world resources, and you have a significant infrastructure for an RBE already in place.

The other aspect of the Venus Project-style society is that people will be able to recognize that all solutions to problems encountered today are technological in nature. Hence, it follows, with an unbelievably high degree of confidence, that future solutions to social woes will also be technological in nature.

Will there be a technological elite? Yes, but only if education of the relevant systems aren't disseminated throughout the society you live in. Not practical? Not likely, since nearly everyone in America today has a remarkably firm grasp of how capitalism works. What's lacking is the distribution of education relevant to exploitation of the fractional reserve banking system (and with good reason too!). Had this knowledge been more widespread, you'd get a mass revolt against the system. There is damn near zero reason why this kind of generalized information about how "cybernation" (as TVP calls it) cannot also be disseminated to the population-at-large via schools as well.

See, Jacque was right. He hit the nail completely on the head, when he said that people of today's society just won't get it. And, you don't. And that's OK. If you want to live in a world dominated by politics, be my guest. You want to live in a world dominated by socialism or capitalism? Go right on ahead. But, don't you dare try to impose your archaic, war-mongering world-views on me, or others like me, who see things for what they really are.

Thank you for reading.