Aiken County deputy fired, arrested *Video*

I's somewhat obvious that SteveR is now trolling, and looking for some kind of attention. The short posts, snide remarks and ignorance of what a cops job is (protect and serve, not harass and attack) have all been less than worthless.

We get it, you side with the cop. Perhaps your racism is not intended, but it's clear as day. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

I've noticed that police forces (in many cities throughout the U.S.) are too lax
in hiring these freakin hot heads who are wrapped wayyyyy too tight.
Granted, if you're a police officer, a big part of your job is dealing with
jerks who you want to thrash, but the whole point of being a cop is to be
able to keep your cool under pressure, and NOT do as this guy did!
You must hold yourself to that higher standard. Likewise, a guy who wants to
hang out at the casinos, drink, and chase women shouldn't become a priest.
Don't be in a profession you can't handle.

I could never be a cop. I'd kill somebody before my first month on the job was
up. If I responded to someone assaulting a child or an elderly person, I'd
shoot them dead. I admit it. This guy wigged out, he's a nut-case...hitting that kid in the throat like that.

STOP the Personal attacks and Threats of Violence !









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[edit on 18-9-2008 by Jbird]

And I just want to add one other thing. Sorry if it's already been said. But the most shocking aspect of this case as far as I'm concerned is that this cop was even in any trouble at all, much less fired.

The cops that murdered Sean Bell were aquitted. The cop that smashed-in the woman's face and left her in a pool of blood on the station floor was reinstated. No one got in trouble for the multiple male on single female strip search in the jail before they left her naked in the cell trying cover up with toilet paper for the rest of the night. (She had been the one who originally called the cops for help too.) I could go on and on with far worse cases in which justice miscarried all because the offender had a shield.

Then there's my case...

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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
You have finally shown proof of bias in this reply.

If so, then I'm PROUD to be biased!

You knew better than to post this video my friend.

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I dont think the officer was that out of line. My parents raised me to respect the police. When you treat them with respect this stuff doesnt happen. When you stand there and run your mouth you get your head kicked in. I dont see why people dont get that concept.

They don't get it because of the kind of society we've become - almost all over the western world nowadays. I've had dealings with the police in the US and Europe, they never mistreated me - why? Because they sensed no disrespect or antisocial tendencies. But whenever some wannabe gangster runs his mouth and gets what he deserves, there is a whole bunch of people who will whine and cry foul. They're almost always politically correct, police-hating types and sheltered sympathizers.

The guys in the video were ostensibly the product of sociopathic hiphop gangster cultures and whatever else has become the 'new thing' for these people to follow. You can always tell, they all look the same and act the same way to impress each other and demonstrate their alienation from society to the rest of us.

It's become perfectly acceptable for them to swagger around in groups with their underwear hanging out and to flip off the police. The attitude is considered cool and 'in'. God forbid a police officer stop these people and have words with them. God forbid the officer feel pissed and speak with some moral authority. Now this man who risked his life daily to protect and serve all of us has lost his job, due to the very PC crowd here on this thread. The idiot acting the fool in the video has a very big sum of TAXPAYER money, again - why? Because of the kind of people we see represented on this thread.

There is talk of profiling and racism, yet that gang proved all of the officer's assumptions correct by laughing at him, shouting in his face, admitting to a history of assaulting officers. Ironic!

Bottom line: if you think you'd be a better cop and treat these poor victims a little better, why don't you get off your ass and do the job yourself?

It is a sad reality that many police officers today are little more than thugs.
It seems like they think that badge and gun make them exempt as regards law, let alone civility.
I think psychological and drug tests should be done pre-employment, then randomly for ALL members of police units.
That cop was a bomb waiting to go off, young Mr. Patterson was fortunate that he was not seriosly injured when the police officer delivered the (undefended) shot to the larynx.
I hope Mr. Patterson does indeed get paid, both by the county, and the perp(officer) and I hope the policeman finds out what it's like to be a janitor paying off a judgement from a personal lawsuit, AFTER doing time for felonious assault.
There is no excuse for the officers behavior other than being pschycologicaly unfit for the job, which means the county is not screening the bullies it hires, and does no follow-up testing.
$$$$$BLING$$$$$!



[edit on 18-9-2008 by Luminaught]

Originally posted by scientist
I's somewhat obvious that SteveR is now trolling

I don't think he's trolling, I think he's making meaningful contributions to this discussion. I started off on the side of the guy being arrested, now after reading SteveR's posts I've changed my mind and I side with the cop.

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"THESE PEOPLE"..........This is a direct quote from your above post which is essentially following your line of "protecting the Cop for beating the crap out of a civilian" defense. I mean come on, at least have some sort of viewpoint that isn't blindly protecting the Cops rights of beating on civilians. Lets say this HUMAN BEING decided to pick up a 2x4 and try and beat the cops scull in. Than we wouldn't have an argument.

I don't understand your stance on this video except to justify a Cop who got fired for assaulting a civilian for no reason. Have you ACTUALLY watched the video or are you just looking for something to ague about. I mean, I can argue all day about basically anything if your looking for something to do.

Please answer one question, and don't answer by saying "Antisocial" behavior. If I am not mistaken, he is hangen out with two other HUMAN BEINGS which in my book isn't too antisocial. I think your main point is that he made an "Agressive" move toward the Officer. Again, if you actually watched the video, all he does is FOLLOW THE GOOD POLICE MANS ORDERS............if he didn't than your argument would be "He deserved it because he wouldn't look the GOOD OFFICER in the face".

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Because they sensed no disrespect or antisocial tendencies.

Spoken like a true fascist. Conform! Fear the police! Be a sheep!

...and demonstrate their alienation from society to the rest of us.

So they are alientated from society and that is their fault? I think not. Incidents like this only legitimize their rebelliousness by exposing the hypocrisy of the system that has betrayed them first through economics.

It's become perfectly acceptable for them to swagger around in groups with their underwear hanging out and to flip off the police.

Ahh, freedom, take a big whiff. (Besides, these kids didn't flip off anyone, they were walking down a street in their own neighborhood.)

The attitude is considered cool and 'in'.

Because the kids smell the hypocrisy and live the injustice of all that is wrong with our country today.

Now this man who risked his life daily to protect and serve all of us has lost his job...

The police can't and won't protect you. Cops risk their life for a paycheck. And by the way, you have a better chance of getting shot and killed working in a gas station.

The idiot acting the fool in the video has a very big sum of TAXPAYER money, again - why? Because of the kind of people we see represented on this thread.

No, because some idiot thought it was a good idea to make it a law to tell people how to dress. Maybe we should all be in those gray Mao outfits.

if you think you'd be a better cop and treat these poor victims a little better, why don't you get off your ass and do the job yourself?

Why, who needs cops anyway?

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Spoken like a true fascist.

Conform! Fear the police! Be a sheep!

Sorry?? I simply stated I have not acted in an antisocial or disrespectful way with the police. So if I treat a cop with a basic level of respect and courtesy I must be a fearful conforming fascist sheep? This just illustrates my whole point here.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
So they are alientated from society and that is their fault? I think not. Incidents like this only legitimize their rebelliousness

My thoughts are twofold here. One, it is their choice to be alienated. Two, the mere presence of patrolling police doesn't legitimize their attitude. Sorry, only if you held a deep rooted hate for the police would you act this way. That doesn't justify anything.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Because the kids smell the hypocrisy and live the injustice of all that is wrong with our country today.

That doesn't make them legitimate. I would advise the kids to get a life, make their way in the world, not cling to sociopathic gangs and cookie cutter gangster fashions and demeanours.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Cops risk their life for a paycheck.

There are plenty of jobs that pay more. Most cops risk their lives because of a sense of duty and service to the community and country. That is something to be respected, not snickered at. Do you think those gangs are contributing a similar amount to society?

Originally posted by jackinthebox
Why, who needs cops anyway?

If something serious and distressing happens to you or your loved ones one day (and I hope not) you will wish you had their help.

I have to say I find your attitudes repugnant.

[edit on 2008/9/18 by SteveR]

Originally posted by hoochymama
Please answer one question, and don't answer by saying "Antisocial" behavior.

What question? You sounded like you were going to ask something but you broke into another diatribe again...

You are constantly picking out my posts. Obviously you can't live with my opinions. I have already told you pages back that I agree with some of your words and disagree with others. You can't let it go and you have the nerve to say I'm looking for an argument?

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I simply stated I have not acted in an antisocial or disrespectful way with the police.

It shouldn't make any difference. Especially when it's the cop hrassing you and sticking his nose into your business when you have done nothing wrong. Respect is a two way street. And showing respect will get you no where if a cop wants to "teach you a lesson."

Better not let your antisocial tendencies show. Everyone must have missionary sex and wear the same clothes.

Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of kids these days need to learn a thing or two about respect, but slamming them in the throat is going to have the opposite of the desired effect.

Sorry, only if you held a deep rooted hate for the police would you act this way.

And why shouldn't they have a deep-rooted hatred of the police when they see things like this and far worse? Not to mention the fact that the police protect no one but the fascist overlords who have stripped away from us nearly all of what it means to be a free American.

That doesn't make them legitimate. I would advise the kids to get a life, make their way in the world, not cling to sociopathic gangs and cookie cutter gangster fashions and demeanours.

Many would if there were in fact "a way" for them in the world. In other words, if there were jobs that paid a living wage. But now we also have to look at the effects of poverty at a generational level as well, if you are going to end the cycle of ignorance which perpetuates wanton violence and crime.

Most cops risk their lives because of a sense of duty and service to the community and country. That is something to be respected, not snickered at.

You must not know too many cops. When was the last time you actually heard about a cop doing something good? Actually helping someone? It's a very rare ocassion, let me tell you. If a cop gets in a shootout with a bad guy, it's not to save you, it's to save his own ass.

If something serious and distressing happens to you or your loved ones one day (and I hope not) and you will wish you had their help.

I'll die before I ever call a cop for help again.

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Your right, I wasn't very clear with my question.

If the HUMAN BEING didn't follow the Cops direction by looking him in the eye would he be arrested for not following the order??

Another question. If the Cop told the HUMAN BEING to place his hands on the car and he didn't would he be arrested for not following the order???

From your perspective the HUMAN BEING should respect the Officer and follow his orders. Is it not?? When the HUMAN BEING did what the Officer ordered him to do and followed orders and still gets arrested, than what???

Instead of arguing on behalf of a Cop you don't know (maybe you do), instead of arguing your point about Cops being good (not all of them are, and this one isn't), continually creating a defense for this particular Cop when surly his actions are not defendable, you are basically becoming the martyr in this thread.

No big deal except I have seen you become the martyr in various threads I seem to run across and you always seem to take the irrational and illogical viewpoint no matter what. Everyone will agree that "NOT ALL COPS ARE BAD" but when your complete argument is based on the most damning video of all time against a Cop being in the wrong you at least need to step back and say "wow, you maybe right on this one". But, instead, you continue to "bicker" and go off on tangents to prove your point that ALL COPS AREN'T BAD. We can all agree to that. But in this case HE IS FREAKING WRONG. There is video evidence and you still want to argue. That is why 99% of the people in this thread are wondering what the hell your looking at.

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I don't know what run ins you've had with the police but I'll tell you this. Cops are human beings and desire respect just like the rest of us. The nature of their job brings them to people who are most likely to disrespect them. Is it any wonder friction occurs?

You have to be mindful of the patterns here. People who respect cops are treated well. People who don't are treated accordingly.

Originally posted by hoochymama
I wasn't very clear with my question.

You know, me and you will have to agree to disagree at some point.

Originally posted by hoochymama
If the HUMAN BEING didn't follow the Cops direction by looking him in the eye would he be arrested for not following the order??

The guy screamed in his face like a kid with a tantrum. Haven't I told you this several times already? You've got to be turning a blind eye not to see it. It's facetious to say he was following orders.

If you want to understand the procedures listen to the ten codes the cop used: 10-31, 10-29. You may want to look them up.

Originally posted by hoochymama
creating a defense for this particular Cop when surly his actions are not defendable, you are basically becoming the martyr in this thread.

You have a problem with the cop and probably cops in general, I get that. I have a problem with gangster 'cultures' like this and their irreverent authority hating attitudes. I've spoken at length about the bigger picture, but you've shown no interest at all in what I've said. All you care about is the individual cop here and why I'm not chanting 'BAD COP BAD COP' with the rest of you. The situation is just not that clear cut. Sorry.

Originally posted by hoochymama
the most damning video of all time against a Cop

Ha ha. You've got to be kidding. There are FAR worse videos of cops out there. I've sided with the victims before on several of these.

Originally posted by hoochymama
you continue to "bicker" and go off on tangents to prove your point that ALL COPS AREN'T BAD. We can all agree to that.

Perhaps if you opened your mind and actually read my posts you'd understand the complexities of the situation. It helps no-one to demonize the cop and end all thought right there.

Originally posted by hoochymama
But in this case HE IS FREAKING WRONG.

How many times do you need to say it before you feel better?

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You should of stopped with "maybe we need to agree to disagree" with your first quote but you continued on.

Anyway, it looks like you "picked" my context perfectly which seems your MO most of the time.

I have a problem with Cops when they:

1. Look and Sound irrational from the very get go.

2. When a Cop continues to badger, speak down to, treat like a second class citizen, harass, make statements like "ooohhhh, this is the guy that tried to punch out another cop and got away with it", etc.

3. Not really the final reason but considering you will find some minor disagreement in this post to go off on another three paragraph rant.........This Cop in this situation was trying to find a reason to arrest someone. Cops that are "tired", "overworked", "used to dealing with this stuff on a daily basis" are usually the ones to exhibit violent tendancys.

What you haven't mentioned in any of your posts is the Female cop who is acting like this is some kind of game. She is smirking and laughing almost the whole time this is going on.

I am not debating whether Cops are "Good or Bad". What I am debating is whether THIS Cop is good or bad.

Is he??

All I want to know is, what happened on the way to the police station?
I mean, the cop behaved really, really bad but not enough to get fired and arrested; maybe suspended without pay??
Did something else happen after what we saw that they are not talking about?

Anyways...I guess I should be arrested. Why? because I walk around the streets with no shirt on.

Women should be arrested when walking with those super tight pants that leaves nothing to the imagination; or those min-skirts that make stop my car just to watch.

Is it ok if I wear shorts as under wears, so when wearing my pants low like that I won't be showing my boxers?

Next, they are going to tell black people not to braid their hair or have dreads. Or maybe not to talk the way they talk, or walk the way they do.

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Why are you asking me questions when you don't want the answers? Honestly, it's

The female cop finds the moronic guy amusing. So do I.

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Your right SteveR about the question thing....I don't really want you to answer because I know what your answer will be...........


On to the female Cop. Again, you don't have a clue because she was laughing at your SUPER COP!!

Steve, were you a Cop at some point in your life, a correctional officer perhaps??? This would explain a lot.





[edit on 18-9-2008 by hoochymama]

reply to post by jackinthebox

You must not know too many cops. When was the last time you actually heard about a cop doing something good? Actually helping someone? It's a very rare ocassion, let me tell you.

No, it's not.the vast majority of cops help people every day. I'm not defending the guy in this article, he deserves whatever punishment he gets. Maybe more. To judge every cop by this clown isn't fair. I do know alot of cops and have known many throughout my life. There are(and I know) bad ones but they are the minority, regardless of your opinion. I've read your threads and your life experiences have tainted your view.

Here's a small sample of good things cops do.

Cops for Cancer

Ironcops

Cop saves kid

Police toy drive, Special Olympics fundraiser

There are plenty more.

Like I said, I agree that this guy should be punished to the full extent but your statement just smacks of resentment and bitterness.

Originally posted by hoochymama
Again, you don't have a clue because she was laughing at your SUPER COP!!

Can you deliver a point without being immature? Great White Cop? Super Cop? What next? Seriously!

I am not so sure about your assertion. She laughed when the guy was acting the fool.

I am not a cop. I am a guy who's had many good experiences with cops and know the stresses of the job and the crap they deal with. I grok it.