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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by _Phoenix_
Thanks for the history on Morocco. What percentage of Morocco is Muslim? How safe is it for a white man to walk around? Isn't Casablanca in Morocco? Also, from my understanding, one of the populations with the highest percentages of RH negative blood is in the Mountains in Morocco. These people are probably related to the Basques, and the ancient Britons, after whom the British isles are named.
The way I see it, it that we either talk about our problems, suspicions, and fears in the escalating war between non-Muslims, even when these exchanges get ugly, or we can be silent, and the violence will come sooner than later.
Originally posted by Cythraul
Firstly, thank you for the Moroccan history lesson. Very interesting. I believe it's a shame they have had Islam imposed upon their beautiful ancient heritage, but nevertheless - very heartwarming to read about a rich culture.
Secondly, I'm sorry to come off sounding like a b*stard here but no, Britain does not belong to second+ generation immigrants as much as it does to the indigenous Brits. Their ancestors did not build Britain, they did not fight thousands of years worth of wars to protect it, they did not make it a wealthy country. As you can probably tell, I believe very strongly in bloodlines and ancestry.
And you're right. London is absolutely multicultural. There may be no way to undo the damage done by multiculturalism. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to hold onto my heritage and my beliefs.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Ownification
So because I state a few facts about the condition of Israel and how they've been kicking Muslim ass for decades after being attacked by Muslim, I'm now an Zionist sympathizer?
Nope. But I have the highest respect for fighting men, men of courage, and men who prevail, even against overwhelming odds. I detest those who fight without balls, men who would strap an explosive vest on some female retards and detonate remotely. I detest those who would kill innocents, including children.
And as far as calling bastards "bastards," I don't care about their numbers. Right now my numbers are 44 confirmed. And legal. And against some of the bravest, most capable warriors anywhere.
No, I admire courage, intelligence, and a well disciplined group of fighters. If somehow that makes me what you call a Zionist sympathizer, then I guess that's what I am.
The map of the entire Middle East was drawn up at random. War now has redefined those initial lines, with territory going to the victor. Too bad. You know, it would be one thing if Israel gained their territory by attacking and going on the offensive. But they didn't. They only responded when attacked. That takes some serious gonads, something lacking from the countries around them.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Anyway I do feel for those who are born here but not have the feel of being welcome, I do blame it on those who spoil it for the rest of us. I.E Extremists, or black thugs etc.
But like I said I see what your saying, but it also confuses me I just don't know where I belong, I'm Half Welsh/Half Moroccan. What am I? Where do I belong?
Originally posted by eyescryforALLAAH07
oh... so YOU would marry a woman who is having regulard sex with another husband?
let's discuss polyandry shall we?
okay, if a woman has 2 husbands, HOW will she satisfy the sexual desire of BOTH when it is FACT that a woman has a lower sexdrive than a man? HOW would you decifer who is the father of the child if she fell pregnant, especially if they are in a country where dna testing isn't present?
i find the idea of a woman having 2 men having their way with her DISGUSTING and against human nature!
men NATURALLY have an inclination towards more than one woman, they have a higher sexdrive etc, and even looking in the BIBLE it mentions that the prophets (aside from jesus) had multiple wives! peace and blessings be upon them all
i am sure that YOU wouldn't marry a woman who is married to another man!
the thought of such a thing makes ANY MODEST WOMAN'S skin crawl!
now, why is it okay for a woman to have a husband with more than one wife?
well, for starters women mainly crave EMOTIONAL support, and as long as the man is just between the 2/3/4, and the wives are close friends also, then this does not bother them if their rights are being fulfilled!
and PLEASE, let us stay on topic and not keep deviating!
if nothing else is to be said with regards to the topic, then stop posting!
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by eyescryforALLAAH07
Would you marry a man who is having regular sex with another wife? No offence, but that smacks of hypocrisy to me.
I think your replies here are very telling. Firstly, it's a ridiculously massive generalisation to think that all women will have a lower sex drive than all men. Are you really that confident in that assertion?
As you are happy to deal with blanket generalisations, it's generally believed that a man peaks sexually long before a woman does. What happens then? How will a man satisfy several wives who - if of similar ages - when he's already peaked sexually and they haven't? Or is this somehow, again, different?
Again, this is a ridiculous assertion. All men have a natural inclination towards having more than one woman? Whilst monogamy doesn't suit everyone, I think the majority of males in the west are pretty happy with it. I know I am. Does this make me - and anyone like me - unnatural then?
As far as using polygamous prophets to support your views, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. There's an odd circular reasoning at work. Of course they had multiple wives, they came from a background that advocates it!
Again, there's remarkable double standards at work here.
The blanket generalisation of women, and people in general, in your replies is pretty astonishing.
1 - actually as polygyny is permitted in islaam, and aslong as my husband is fulfilling my rights and can be just to myself and another wife, then yes, i do not oppose it (unlike many "modernists" do today)
2 - i'm not one for always relying on media to support things, and my point is a general point that most women are like this... (maybe not every woman, as i'm sure some of them out there are different, although i don't think it is a very big percentage.... Allaah knows best)
3 - that's only if he is unjust in the issue...
4 - the nature of the majority of men is to be drawn to multiple women...
just because you are monogamous, does not mean you do not glance at other women, and it does not mean you do not desire another woman (i am not saying all men because maybe some DON'T look anywhere else, again Allaah knows best).
the fact that in the qur'aan 2/3/4 are listed BEFORE 1, and i believe this to be The Book of God, then as God listed multiple before single, and the reason He has stated 1 is due to "fear of injustice" then i think it says it all...
now, MORE MEN that women have affairs, go to prostitutes etc, and USUALLY the reason why a woman resorts to an affair in this society is due to the injustice of her husband!
(i.e too obsessed with work, hardly around, constant arguments and women crave love and affection etc...) i am NOT justifying affairs because it is still wrong, however i am merely highlighting the reasons behind them in this society
(women treated justly RARELY, IF EVER, commit adultery, yet many men who are sexually unsatisfied, attracted to other women etc, have affairs regardless of whether he is happy or not)
4 - i am merely highlighting that THEY, may peace and blessings be upon them all, also had multiple wives and/or slaves...
if it was unGodly to have more than one wife, NONE of these prophets, the lights of guidance sent unto mankind, would have been polygynous!
5 - i don't have double standards AT ALL, for i have told you WHY i disagree, nay, DESPISE polyandry and anyone with common sense can see it doesn't work, just based on the issue of children!
and as i have already said, i do not see a problem with polygyny for MANY reasons, as long as the husband has done as Allaah has commanded i.e BE JUST.
6 - well, seeing as though this thread has blanket-generalized all muslims as wanting to take over the uk (many people have anyway) i am merely stating what we know about the nature of people
Originally posted by chesstrio
reply to post by LostNemesis
19 is the comon denominator in the quran wich aparently leeds to the date 21/12/2012 wich is doomsday..and..thats what the mayans calender ends so i wouldent worry to much..
my boss said that one day muslims will take over the would and there would be one leader.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Ownification
Once upon a time, all nations that exist today did not exist back then. They existed in different forms. The people of Israel have created a nation and a home in the lands their ancestors once occupied, which Arabs conquered over a thousand years ago. Now the Israelis have created a new nation that is their home, they have every right to exist there. If the Palestinians, who are primarily Arabs, want to live there as well, then they need to learn to live with Israelis in peace. It is as simple as that.
Muslims have no right to deny Israel the right to exist.
Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by eyescryforALLAAH07
Just wondered if you agreed with what this human being has to say on the subject of wifebeating.
Do you think this gentleman is a righteous,spiritual person who speaks the truth or do you think he is a dangerous,delusional sociopath actively promoting domestic abuse?
[edit on 01/12/01 by karl 12]