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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Ownification
Hey! You are the one who called me a Zionist. You're the one who brought up the Palestinians. You're the one who brought up refugees. You're the one who punched this off-subject, and I responded. I don't listen to folks like you because you always have an agenda. You hate Jews, hate Israel, and I have little patience or use for such blatant, bogus stupidity. But, a lot of civilizations have hated them over the millennia, and as a group, they are the only cultural survivors that remain basically unchanged as a culture with their same identity. I don't see any Babylonians, Parthians, Assyrians, or Beothuk today, but I see a culture that has remained in spite of everything thrown against it. That gets my respect, not that they would count my respect for anything. Resolve. Courage. Discipline.
Everywhere Islam goes, so goes misery. It doesn't matter if you're the host country trying to be an open society, once the Muslims get their feet in the door, they incrementally begin demanding you change your rules, your customs, and your laws, one incremental step at a time. They won't change, and demand that you accommodate them. Before you know it, just as a camel gets his nose under the tent, the rest of him is coming in.
But hey, as bad as the Islamic movement is in Britain, it's only going to get worse. I like what Australia told Muslims. You follow our laws, our rules, and you owe allegiance to Australia, or you get out.
Common sense approach if I ever heard of one. And if anyone wants to quote percentages of Muslims as a percentage of a populations within a culture such as Britain, that means nothing. Time and again, very small percentages of determined people will eventually wear down a larger, less dedicated, less determined society.
Consider communism in Russia! Look what a handful of fanatics did.
I love my British cousins, and I really hope for the best. But it's going to take some very firm measures to change things. But to change things, you have to open your eyes and look around.
Geez, which question? The one about the US being invaded by Latinos? Would I fight them? What a foolish, impossible question. But I suppose that deserves an answer. Probably not. I'd probably drop my rifle and double over in laughter. Besides, their column could only do about five miles per hour with only one set of jumper cables.
A Muslim said he is suing Tesco for religious discrimination because he was asked to handle crates of alcohol in a warehouse.
Mohammed Ahmed, 32, was employed at the supermarket giant's Lichfield depot in September last year for a job that included transporting various goods on fork-lift trucks.
The Saudi Arabia national told a tribunal he had not been told when he started the job that he would be handling alcoholic drinks - a task he said was against his Islamic beliefs.
The situation came to a head in the run-up to Christmas last year, when more alcohol was ferried to the warehouse in preparation for the festive season.
Mr Ahmed, who moved to Derby in 2006, complained to Tesco in February, but claims he was treated unfairly as a result. After eight months working for the company, he left in protest.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Ownification
It wouldn't be my land if I sold it, or if we, and my land was lost in the process of a war.
This isn't all that hard. When I sell my land, it is no longer mine. And no, when it is no longer mine, I cannot in good conscious fight for it. A deal is a deal.
Right now Russia has islands that before the war belonged to the Japanese. Guess what? It's now Russian land. Is it right? Right and wrong have nothing to do with it. That's my point. You don't pick a fight, get your ass whipped, and expect to walk away with everything you started with.
You'll note that Jordan doesn't have the West Bank anymore. Why? They wanted war with Israel, they got their war, and Israel kicked their butts, and took the land. Whose land is it? Israels. Who's like to have it? Get in line. But whose land is it now? Israels.
And no, I'm not so sorry and lazy to sit on my dusty butt in a refugee camp feeling sorry for myself. I'd go somewhere that I could make a living and feed my family.
(I know.) Once a Muslim has ever occupied a piece of land, it's always Muslim land. That's an archaic Muslim concept that seems to be the root of this problem. Even when Muslims sold their land to Israeli's, they still feel they have a right to it? Get serious! That isn't right.
This goes back to Muhammed who loved plunder, and the entire religion he created as he went along seeking booty mirrored his behavior at the time. Nothing wrong with plunder I suppose, but you have to be smart enough to know when your ass is beaten.
I say it again. Even the Egyptians refused the return of the Gaza Strip. Too much trouble. Populated by some of the dumbest, most contentious people on earth. Israel doesn't want it, Egypt doesn't want it, and really, no one in the whole world wants it.
If a man is ignorant, I can teach him. If a man is unskilled, I can show him. But stupidity? You just can't fix stupidity. And after a while, you won't even waste your time. Wall it off and forget it.
Palestine is a small and very poor country, about the size of your state of Vermont. Its Arab population is only about 1,200,000. Already we have had forced on us, against our will, some 600,000 Zionist Jews. We are threatened with many hundreds of thousands more.
Our position is so simple and natural that we are amazed it should even be questioned. It is exactly the same position you in America take in regard to the unhappy European Jews. You are sorry for them, but you do not want them in your country.
We do not want them in ours, either. Not because they are Jews, but because they are foreigners. We would not want hundreds of thousands of foreigners in our country, be they Englishmen or Norwegians or Brazilians or whatever.
Think for a moment: In the last 25 years we have had one third of our entire population forced upon us. In America that would be the equivalent of 45,000,000 complete strangers admitted to your country, over your violent protest, since 1921. How would you have reacted to that?