Hoodies, hats banned from shops, page 3
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reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 08:04 AM by citizen smith
According to this Wired article, if it's CCTV that is the reason why some wear hoods-up all the time, then you could still hide your face from the pervasive all-seeing-eye of the camera whilst keeping the hood down...




reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 08:44 AM by wolfmother
To the original poster..let me say that I agree with you 100%. I can't get overly excited about "hoodies and hats." AND YES I KNOW, "Some" crimes ARE committed by someone wearing these clothes..but to ban a type of clothing which is a fashion statement for our youth in a lot of areas, is nothing more than profiling.
Most all of the teens around here wear hoodies and hats. Are they criminals? No. It's a "culture" thing if you will. It's an expression of a "fashion" statement for many, and NO..of course, not all teens dress this way, and if you or I don't happen to agree with it, shouldn't make it a "bad thing." It's the ones who want to be a little "different", that dress outside of the, Accepted Code of Dress, and NO, I am fully aware many won't agree with it..but my point is, you don't HAVE TO agree, but just perhaps try to understand it.
Like it or not it's "who they are"...and they aren't you. They, like so many in the past, want an identity of their own. The ole' "Rebel Without A Cause" agenda, if you will. I've actually asked them WHY?...this look, and the answers I've gotten range from.."It's COOL" to "So and So wears it" to "I don't know, I just like how I look."
I believe they have a right to dress how they want. As long as they aren't hurting anyone, or being disruptive in public, what's the problem?

I'm not "into" tattoos, or piercings, BUT a lot of people are. It's "WHO" they are." Just because it's not for me, doesn't make it wrong. It's merely a different perspective. Are they "scary"..or "bad" because of their choices? No. Just an individual who expresses themselves in a manner that's different than who I am.

I'll be darned if I'm going to go around frightened of things that are outside of my lifestyle. Different. The "What ifs" are getting out of hand, and before you know it, you won't HAVE any choices left, because they'll all be made for you..."For Your Own Good." To keep you safe.....
I know what's good for me. I don't need someone making the decisions for me. Choices and freedom go hand in hand.
As someone once stated, "Freedom will come at a price, But that price should never become freedom itself.


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 08:49 AM by ignorant_ape
reply to post by scientist



After a while, they all got smart, and just started wearing a plain, white t-shirt and blue jeans. Tha's it. So now, when a crime is committed, they are just as hard to identify since everyone is wearing the same exact outfit.


UTTER TWADDLE

you very conveniently left out the minor fact that witnesses can now see and identify thier face / hairstyle and that when they pass CCTV thier facial features are also identifiable


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 08:55 AM by feydrautha
Originally posted by tezzajw

How can a public shopping centre enforce dress codes upon youths? What about youths who are with their parents and allowed some free time for an hour?

This police state mentality is a joke.

www.news.com.au
(visit the link for the full news article)


shops are privately owned, they dont have to serve anyone they dont wish to. a shop is private property, and has protections.

and rightly so.

this is no police state, big brother is us, and a good thing, too.

we should all be the eyes, there should be no shadow where criminals can take refuge...

if someone murdered your loved ones, or stole your property, you would want them caught, and made to pay...

no?


reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 09:20 AM by Mach Shadows
reply to post by lw2525



I totaly agree with you there, let these coporate giants and even little shops make their own rules about wither or not to lets these thugs in.

These hoddies are a disgrace and strike fear into everyday normal citizens. People wont got to the corner shop due to fear from these kids. They dont no if they are going to cause trouble when they walk past.

I will admit that i own a hoddie, however i dont wear my hood up unless its raining but as soon as i enter a shop i take it down, thats just from respect. I dont like to talk to people when i cant see a face.
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