Palin vs. Obama... Who Has More Experience?, page 8

Originally posted by southern_Guardian

Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Huh? We just had 3.3% growth in the 2nd quarter. (I'd love to see 5% growth, but we can't have everything.)

And how does this compensate for the lies and the wasted tax payer money from this administration?

I was addressing the claim that we are in an economic recession. I didn't mention the government at all, be it government waste or incompetence.

How the hell can you sit there and cover their asses just because their republicans?

I'm not a Republican, I'm an independent who's voted for Democrats and Republicans as well as Libertarian, Reform and Connecticut Party candidates. Perhaps you're confusing my post with someone else's?

History tells us that we never know we are in a recession until years after that recession ends.

Hmm. I've never heard of that before. Got a reference, SG?

oil prices are the highest in decades (even with the decrease still so), council wharehouses have had to appeal for more "food can" donations because there are so many people in need at this moment, the unemployement rate has increased, many corporations are laying off their staff in the 100's and this administration is doing jacksh** at the moment.

What's a "council warehouse"? Sounds like a British term. Whatever. What would you have the administration do? Outlaw the market and make people buy and sell what the government tells them to?

The economy goes in cycles; there's no way to avoid that. There'll be uptimes and relative downtimes. But, as long as it keeps moving, there'll always be growth. 3.3% growth in one quarter is reasonably healthy. But, like I said, adaptations to a changing market need to be made constantly.

They complain about oil dependence yet their answer is to drill their way out of it in an area that has been previous drilled.

Okay, you've got me baffled with this one. The problem is a dependence on foreign oil, and the solution is to increase domestic production AND develop cleaner renewable energy sources.

Nancy Pelosi's solution is to keep oil prices high in order to motivate the development of alternatives. I think that that is a long term goal and does not justify a lowered supply of oil when demand will only increase in the next decade. Pelosi's solution will result in long term ever skyrocketing gasoline and home heating oil prices.

I am 100% in agreement with Sarah Palin's outlook on this. Watch and listen all the way to the end:

YouTube Link

You can cut the straight talk out, a week ago you wouldnt of known who the women was and you would have refused the fact of bring here onto the ticket.

Au contraire. I have been well aware of Governor Palin since last winter when she appeared on Larry Kudlow's program and was first asked if she would accept an invitation to run for Vice President. I'd never heard of her up 'til then, but I became a fan immediately and was ecstatic yesterday morning when I learned that she was picked by McCain.

And, as you can see by this post written in February of '07, she was a favorite of a lot of people before I'd ever heard of her:
palinforvp.blogspot.com...

And once again here political experience is 6years.

Her political experience is 16 years.

She only started in politics since 2002,

She started in politics in 1992.

here time as mayor of a town with barely 6000 people is not counted as experience for POTUS. If your going to include her time as mayor of some small town in the middle of nowhere Id be most happy to include Obamas time as a law lecturer and a community organizer, maybe then we can compare their experience people.

Palin has executive experience. Look at her job decription and her accomplishments versus Obama's.

Being a law professor is a purely academic endeavor that requires a knowledge of the subject and a gift for communicating that knowledge. Communication skills are important for any chief executive and Obama has those skills. But he has no executive experience.

To this day I still don't know what a "community organizer" is. What did he do during that time? Sounds like he must have done a lot of talking and, again, that's an important skill to have. But it's not governmental experience.

Obama then spent eight years in the Illinois state legislature and maybe one year in the United States senate before he began running for President. In all of Sarah Palin's time as a council member, mayor, ethics commissioner and governor, her accomplishments are numerous and impressive. What are Barack Obama's legislative accomplishments?

Bill Clinton was also the governor of a state that is roughly 30% the size of a major city. But the skills needed for the job are 100% applicable and transferable.

Bill Clinton was governor of a state that has over 2 million people with a density of around 40 per sq km at the time of his governorship. He was governor of the state from 1979-1981 then again from 1983 to 1992. Before then he was Arkansas Attorney General. And here you are comparing him to a woman who was mayor of a town of 6000 for 6years and only recently became governor of Alaska. Please get your facts straight.

I stand by my original quote.

Incidentally, Ross Perot (who I voted for in '96 and supported in '92 after Jerry Brown lost the Democratic primary to Clinton) had an interesting exchange with Jim Lehrer in a 1992 debate. Perot made much the same argument about Clinton that you are making about Palin:

Q: Mr. Perot, if you were sitting at home now and just heard this exchange about Arkansas, who would you believe?

PEROT: I grew up five blocks from Arkansas. Let's -- let's put it in perspective. It's a beautiful state, it's a fairly rural state, it has a population less than Chicago or Los Angeles, about the size of Dallas and Fort Worth combined. So I think probably we're making a mistake night after night after night to cast the nation's future on a unit that small.

Q: Why is that a mistake?

PEROT: It's irrelevant. You know, Jim, I ----

Q: What he did as Governor of Arkansas is irrelevant?

PEROT: Oh, no, no, but you can't -- I could say that I ran a small grocery store on the corner, therefore I extrapolate that into the fact that I could run Wal-Mart; that's not true.

Q: Mr. Perot --

Q: Governor --

PEROT: I can't protect an Arkansas company --

Q: Governor --

CLINTON: Mr. Perot, with all respect, I think it highly relevant and I think that a $4 billion budget, with state and Federal funds, is not all that small. And I think the fact that I took a state that was one of the poorest states in the country and had been for 153 years and tried my best to modernize its economy and to make the kind of changes that had generated support from people like the presidents of Apple Computer and Hewlett Packard, and some of the biggest companies in this country, 24 retired generals and admirals and hundreds of business executives are highly relevant, and you know, I'm frankly amazed that, since you grew up five blocks from there you would think that what goes on in that state is irrelevant. I think it's been pretty impressive. And the people who have jobs, the people who have jobs and educations and opportunities that didn't have them 10 years ago don't think it's irrelevant at all. They think it's highly relevant

Again: accomplishments.

The choice of Palin further highlights the hypocrisy, the flip flopping, the BS coming from the righties, and now their sending in "raids" to cover McCains flop in choosing Palin. Please.

Thank you for your esteemed estimation of my station. I'll bill the McCain campaign for my services on Monday.

Romney must of refused the VP choice, thats the only rational scenario...

Perhaps McCain decided against Romney because he knew that choice would only invite accusations of "too many homes" and "doctrinal Mormon racism" and all the other lines of attack that the Obama team was ready to unleash.

I think McCain wanted to shake up the ticket and so he went for Sarah Palin who, ironically, is immune to charges of inexperience at the bottom of their ticket because the Democrats have irrelevant experience at the top of their ticket.

Ah, political season. This is fun.

Edit: lousy typos...

[edit on 30-8-2008 by Tuning Spork]