reply to post by sizzle
I've run across some threads a few months ago that address this very same subject. Here's a couple of links to those threads so I don't wind up
repeating too much...Also, the research sources used within those threads are still available there.
Driving Without A License / Sovereignty etc
Activist Group Considers 'Red-Light Cam' Lawsuits
Knock yourself out!
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reply to post by Yarcofin
You're wise to want to check other sources...But probably the single best source would be the
Constitution & Bill of Rights. For getting some other resources & relevant links related to the
Constitutuion, I mostly use
We the People Foundation; These people really do their research concerning the
Constitution & how the government abuses it.
I also use
Pushing Hamburger. While this source is laid out as more of a "rant" against the government,
they do pretty detailed research to back up their rants.
Pretty much the best hope for America I've been able to find (currently involved in the whole mess) would be
Ron
Paul. He has an impeccable record as far as taking his vow to the Constitution seriously. If he should get into the White House (doesn't look
very likely, but anything's possible, right?), then I think it's safe to presume that the "researchers in-the-know" about the extent of political
corruption could count on him to start getting the mess straightened out.
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Originally posted by sizzle
Also, I recall a reference from somewhere about laws and codes. That the reason they are called 'codes' is that the average person is not meant to
understand them.
Well, that's the way it turns out but, to my understanding, if it isn't Constitutionally legislated by Congress or the State legislatures, then it
cannot be called a "law"...Hence, Statutes, Codes, Regulations, etc.
Technically, by the Constitution (The First Amendment & the Oaths of Office clauses), each & every Officer of all three Branches on both Federal &
State levels must swear/affirm to a legally-binding Oath to act "in pursuance of" the Constitution & cannot enact any "rules" that attempt to
supersede the Constitution...Therefore, by chain of common sense logic (why is it still called "common sense" when it really isn't all that common
nowadays?

) it goes without saying that the government has been violating their Oaths in every conceivable way for nearly the entire history of
the USA as an independent nation. And by further reasoning, it doesn't matter what they drag you into court for, since there are so few of those
"laws" that are even Constitutionally valid in the first place!
It's been too long that the government has been using Law as a weapon against US Citizens...If the Government itself cannot abide by the "Rule of
Law" & the "Supreme Law of the Land," then they must be made to realize that the
Supreme Law of the Land (ie: The Constitution) will
backfire on them. Of course, that's only if the General Public can be educated in what the Supreme Law actually is & what it means.
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Originally posted by sizzle
If I could find a balance, I would be interested in looking into it.
I am more interested in sustained communities. Where they grow their own crops, etc.
I'd still advise caution, at least until the whole mess gets straightened out...After all, the government has already demonstrated that they won't
hesitate to justify (by "color of law" & military action) another Waco. Just make sure that your chosen community has a well-equipped & prepared
Militia...BTW, a
Constitutionally-defined Militia does not require any State or Federal approval.
Originally posted by tankthinker
i want to use some of these on my law teacher, he is 100% pro government
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what do you think are the best arguments i could pass by him
Personally, I'd start with the Constitution itself & point out that any Law, Statute, Code, etc. that was not enacted with "pursuance of" the
Constitution is automatically null & void & futhermore, just the passing of such Unconstitutional actions constitutes Felony Offense against their
Breeches of legally-binding Oaths to the Constitution! Find out his answer to
that!
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Originally posted by tankthinker
i can't help but saying that the ones who set up these laws are very clever and i respect them because of their ability to achieve this, but i guess
there are always those who can escape their grasp
Amen, Brother (Or is it "Sister?" Never really know for sure on the internet!)! A common quote used on ATS goes, "Free your mind & your @$$ will
follow."
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Originally posted by Maxmars
I have never attended law school, I am not a member of the BAR. I suspect that if I am limited to receiving their 'certification' via submission to
their indoctrination, I may never suffer the privilege.
Originally posted by Maxmars
A word about lawyers... Law schools were folded into the 'higher educational system' through regulation and codification (which they unwittingly
unleashed upon themselves.)
I'm glad that you said that you never got that certification. Considering that the BAR is an organization that has foreign roots, that means that
certification would tie you to "foreign loyaties." In the
Constitution (specifically, Article 1,
Section 9, Clause 8), specifies that no one with "foriegn loyaties" shall be qualified for service in Congress--Yet how many such lawyers get into
Congress in the first place?

This is not to mention also how many lawyers practice within the legal system itself...In short, never trust any
lawyer that can lay claim to any foreign title, such as "squire."
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Sizzle, your references above, concerning the "invisible puzzle" system, has only confirmed the truth of what I've known & felt for years but I had
been unable to coherently describe. It's that very same "invisible puzzle" system that has been used against people throughout the whole of the
known history of human civilization--Just as I've described in the thread
Future Shock
just a few years ago.
As a word of warning: Anyone who contends that America is a Democracy or is committing to the "spread of" Democracy is just another shill with a
smokescreen--America is a Constitutional Republic because the Founding Fathers abhorred democracy as much as the "Cold War Era USA" feared
communism: This is due to the fact that the Founding Fathers were already aware that anyone that can wage a successful PR campaign can sway public
opinion (& thus sway votes) to manipulate 51% of the public into "voting away" the Rights of the other 49%.
In the Constitution Article 4, Section 4), our government is obligated to operate as a republican form of government--Officially defined as
follows:
republic n
1 : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and is usually a president; also : a nation or other political unit having such a
government
2 : a government in which supreme power is held by the citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives governing
according to law; also : a nation or other political unit having such a form of government
Source: The New Merriam-Webster Dictionary
In the context of the United States, both definitions apply.
All in all, I'd have to say that you've hit on something pretty good here...Count on me to bookmark the websites you've linked!
P.S. It should go without saying; flagged & starred!
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