This is thefirst time I have seen anything on the Uniform Comercial Code ( UCC) here on ATS. I admit the first time I heard of filing out I thought it was a myth. I also understand that tyou may petition to file a lean on the Federal Reserve for the net worth of ewhat you have put into the ecconomy. I was told this was figured for every person before their birth. I guess they figure it thru statistics. At the signing of the birthcertificate or marriage licsense of which you will never see the original, cuz they are kept locked up nice and tight. Only copies out there! Our lives were signed away at day one! I would love to learn more about the UCC, but accesss to info is limited and hard to come by. ( not cheap ) I was told it has to do with becoming your own sovernty. I wasalso informed that if you miss file it is a punishable act of treason to miss type even one word could put you in a bad place if you are attmpting to file out.

If you have more info that would be awesome! thanks and if I knew ho to flag or star your thread I sure would!

so....us idiots who signed these contracts. WE ARE SCREWED?
I spend lots of time on the phone looking for a moral person who calls himself an attorney to sit with me and explain WHY no one is told about these options in society to perpetuate corrupt systems and or not to. THis is definately enraging.
I have 42 k in debt that spiraled from one damn credit card......no, i dont own a farrari or anything but did go out to eat a lot. CONDEMN ME! Sheesh!

We need a list or directory of pro bono lawyers to assist in these issues because there is only so much one man can do alone.

PEace

If you only have two chances to opt out where is the law that protects us against being held liable in this web of lies when we WERENT EVEN TOLD ABOUT THE CHANCES TO OPT OUT??!
You see how enraging it is?

These protections might lie in the UCC but i didnt read anything that said that if you arent told about these options then you cant be held liable....ignorance of the law and ignorance of fact have a fine line between them in these cases especially when looking at who actually benefits.

Originally posted by GUICE2
If you only have two chances to opt out where is the law that protects us against being held liable in this web of lies when we WERENT EVEN TOLD ABOUT THE CHANCES TO OPT OUT??!
You see how enraging it is?

These protections might lie in the UCC but i didnt read anything that said that if you arent told about these options then you cant be held liable....ignorance of the law and ignorance of fact have a fine line between them in these cases especially when looking at who actually benefits.

I have been giving this some thought since your last post. I was wondering myself, if you could be held accountable for a contract that you did not sign and knew nothing about.
My legal brain (what's left of it) kicked in to remind me, that when you are a minor, your parents are legally able to enter contracts on your behalf. And on the latter part; we are always told that, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."
Never mind that the guv keeps this info, well hidden from us.
Edit:
Btw, I am so sorry. I know how you feel. I feel betrayed also.

[edit on 29-4-2008 by sizzle]

Yea but im done feeling betrayed and i want to fight back.
We all sign the contracts so its not an issue of that....its the fact that they intend of hiding the most important aspects of the contract that hold us to rediculous obligations.
Then they say "well you should have read the entire thing!" and that is BS because we are all innocent especially those of us in sheltered families, to the ways of the world and are not always on the look out for fine print and loop holes. They set the bubbles and they burst them. I say fine....i will settle with you but on my terms and not theirs.
But we are all sheep for the slaughter in a court of law which is why i need someone with some more knowledge by my side not as a representative but as a cohort in justice.