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Attention ATS! Know The Hidden Meanings Behind the Laws in America, Before it is Too Late!

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posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:02 AM
And now we get to the Patriot Act and how it is NOT in our best interest:

Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial. --Patriot Act

So-called Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny counsel to Americans accused of crimes.

Fascism police-state tactics and methods, similar to Nazi Germany

"The privileges and immunities clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates any of the Bill of Rights nor protects all rights of individual citizens. See Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36, 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873). Instead, this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship."
--Jones v. Temmer, 829 Fed. Supp. 1226 (1993)

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:07 AM
Here is the reference to the social security number and it's relation to 666:

Section 666 of the Federal Social Security Code (42 USC §666) preempts Idaho's Free Exercise of Religion Act (FERA) and similar acts of other states. Section 666 appears to mandate that every State is to force everyone to identify with a Social Security Number (SSN) in order to obtain a professional license, occupational license, recreational license, driver's license, and or marriage license in spite of ones religious beliefs based on Revelation, Chapter 13, of the Bible which warns of a beast that requires every person to identify with a number in order to engage in a livelihood.`The Bible clearly states that one is not to accept a number whereby one cannot buy or sell without it.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:14 AM

"Marriage License".
Invokes the Corporate State to be the third party to your union and whatever you conceive is theirs and becomes their offspring (children).
That is why they can take away your children at any time at their discretion. The State leaves them in your custody and care unless or until they find reason not to.
Definitions from
"The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal."

"marriage license"
"A license or permission granted by public authority to persons who intend to intermarry."
What if you apply and the State says "no"?
"Intermarry" is "Miscegenation"
"mixture of races; marriage between persons of different races, as between a white and a Negro."
Some marriage licenses will actually state that its purpose is for interracial marriage.

"marriage certificate"
"An instrument which certifies a marriage, and is executed by the person officiating at the marriage; it is not intended to be signed by the parties, but is evidence of the marriage.
It seems that a certificate would be more appropriate than a license.

This recaps some of what I have already told you, but it adds some other info that you might want to know.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:17 AM
reply to post by sizzle

so whens the war for teh war on war going to

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:20 AM

History of Marriage Licenses in America

George Washington was married without a marriage license. So, how did we come to this place in America where marriage licenses are issued?

Historically, all the states in America had laws outlawing the marriage of blacks and whites. In the mid-1800's, certain states began allowing interracial marriages or miscegenation as long as those marrying received a license from the state. In other words they had to receive permission to do an act which without such permission would have been illegal.

Blacks Law Dictionary points to this historical fact when it defines "marriage license" as, "A license or permission granted by public authority to persons who intend to intermarry." "Intermarry" is defined in Black's Law Dictionary as, "Miscegenation; mixed or interracial marriages."

Give the State an inch and they will take a 100 miles (or as one elderly woman once said to me "10,000 miles.") Not long after these licenses were issued, some states began requiring all people who marry to obtain a marriage license. In 1923, the Federal Government established the Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act (they later established the Uniform Marriage and Divorce Act). By 1929, every state in the Union had adopted marriage license laws.

This is just a small part of the information from this page. Please go and read the rest of it at the link provided.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:21 AM
reply to post by TyrantFlameViper

Count to three and say when...
one two three!

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:31 AM
Whoa! Now they are messing with America's love affair with their vehicles:

Privilege to use

1. Fee title--Feudal Title
2. Grant Deed and Trust Deed Note: GRANTOR and GRANTEE in all caps are
3. fictional persona Property tax (Must pay)
4. Other taxes (such as water district taxes)
5. Subject to control by government
6. Vehicle Registration
(The incorporated State owns vehicles on behalf of US)
7. Property and vehicles are collateral for the government debt

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State"

"All the property of this country now belongs to the state and will be used for the good of the state."-- FDR, 1933

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:38 AM
Reflection time:
From what we have just read in the preceding posts; we are slaves, in debt to this nation. We do not own anything that we thought that we did. More or less, we are just renting the use of it.
Considering all the talk of our National Debt and our Bankrupt Government; In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, we could lose everything to settle this nation's debt.
Ever think of that? We may be forced to work without pay. Instead of just surrendering a piece of our checks to the guv, they could take it all.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 05:49 AM
Most of what I have posted here, thus far; has come from the USAvsUS website. I have only pricked the surface of all the valuable information that is listed there.
I highly recommend that you take a look at this page and absorb the entirety of it. It is worth the effort. Please don't, 'Perish for a lack of knowledge.'

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 06:17 AM
I'd like to share something with you, that I heard on the National Geographic channel, earlier in the evening. I don't think it's too far off-topic, because my intent here was to expose the government and it's purposes.
There was a special on about Adolph Hitler. My ears really pricked up when I heard him use a phrase, "Don't ask, Don't Tell."
Where have we heard that before? Until the Hitler documentary, I thought that it initiated with the Clinton Administration, when he advocated allowing gays into the military.
Surprise! Surprise! Hitler's use of this slogan had nothing to do with enlisting gays into the military. It had a lot to do with the beginnings of his many heinous crimes that he was trying to keep secret from certain..whoevers

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 06:32 AM
Most laws focus on one thing...making money anyway possible. I tried to do a post on the FDA and the FCC but nobody responded.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 06:40 AM
reply to post by dixi2344

I know what you mean.
I tried one similar, on exposing vaccinations. Next to no interest.
I think some things are still too scary for people.

Actually, I think it comes down to a feeling of helplessness. The guv has us by the 'goffeys.' When it comes right down to it, what are you going to do, short of some type revolution or uprising. And on that note, I think the guv has gotten everyone much too complacent for that (or most people) not ALL.

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posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 07:12 AM
Let me see if I can post a video for you. We talked earlier about the Patriot Act, A Dictator, and crooked government. This video has it all. I encourage you to watch it. Many of us have wondered if George W. will step down or assume a dictatorship. This video will give you some points to ponder:

I don't know what I did wrong. I followed Hellmutt's instructions. But it didn't work out right.

[edit on 28-4-2008 by sizzle]

[edit on 28-4-2008 by sizzle]

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 07:29 AM
Wow I must say that is a hell of a post...a lot of effort and I thank you for that a lot of good info and I am going to check out the site. My favorite info in there was the social security article is that gave me chills.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 07:32 AM
reply to post by mybigunit

Thank you for your response and your interest.
I am glad to hear that you will be checking into more of the site. There is so much more.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 07:44 AM

In all four histories, ( Ancient History -- from the Dawn of Man until roughly 600 B.C.E.

Early History -- 600 B.C.E. to roughly 900 A.D.

Recent History -- 900 A.D. to 1950 A.D.

Current History -- 1950 A. D. to the present)
there is an officially sanctioned history, the story of events which are accepted by the establishment and/or the mainstream historians. None of these histories are complete, and in fact are so woefully inadequate that they surely constitute fraud and misrepresentation in being presented as if this version is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Not only was history written by the victors in any given conflict or event, but it was then revised by whoever took over from the victors, and by whatever means they came into power. Mainstream history is, therefore, a double edged sword to be wielded at will in order to justify and legitimize the rule of a select group over others.

Mainstream history is not all lies. A fundamental rule followed by organizations such as the National Enquirer is that one always begins with some acceptable truth, and thereafter speculates about what might have stemmed from the truth. The kernel of truth contained therein is what provides the appearance of legitimacy, and those people who lack the basis of Discrimination, often blithely accept the illogical and irrational arguments and stories which stem from this truth, but which themselves are no more than creative fiction.

Mainstream history, by its very nature, cannot be trusted. It is mainstream because it is accepted by so-called authorities (historians, politicians, and those in the employ of the elite and powerful). It serves the agendas of those same authorities, and is therefore nothing more than propaganda or an adherence to the “party line.” Alternative histories are those histories which challenge the authorities, the party line, the mainstream, and then attempt -- hopefully -- to research and present history in terms of what actually transpired, and not necessarily what might make someone or something look good. Alternative histories are not necessarily any more legitimate than the stuff served up by the mainstream -- they can have their own agendas as well. But an earnest effort into discovering historical truths can be very enlightening.

There are links provided here that I intend to follow up on, but it might have to come later in the day. I have pulled another all-niter in front of this PC, doing research. So, I might have to get some sleep first. Please feel free to leave comments, or ask questions. I will catch up later.
I'll still be online for a little while longer if anyone wants to discuss anything, so far. Thanks for reading everyone.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 09:09 AM
reply to post by sizzle

Well, those articles show a long term plan to degradate the people in this country. People need to remember the jewel is in the heart. Evil people can poison your brain and your body but they can not make you hate. The cops who cried when they were charged with the evil task of taking nursing babies from their FDLS mothers are a sign that not all of us have been turned into unfeeling zombies.

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 10:23 AM
Thank you for all of the wonderful info you've gathered, this topic has recently struck my interests.

I was wondering if you have any suggestions as to what any one person( I mean Human Being:lol
could do about it??

Excellent posts! Thank you again

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 11:40 AM
reply to post by sizzleSizzle . Star And Flagged . Thanks once again for the great info and links .We all Should Be as informed as you !

posted on Apr, 28 2008 @ 01:01 PM

Originally posted by sizzle
Let me see if I can post a video for you. We talked earlier about the Patriot Act, A Dictator, and crooked government. This video has it all. I encourage you to watch it. Many of us have wondered if George W. will step down or assume a dictatorship. This video will give you some points to ponder:

I don't know what I did wrong. I followed Hellmutt's instructions. But it didn't work out right.

[edit on 28-4-2008 by sizzle]

[edit on 28-4-2008 by sizzle]

Hi. Great Thread.

Is there any way you could post just the link to this video since it's not working in this thread? Thanks.

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