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Originally posted by weedwhacker
At this moment in time, I do not have the ability, nor the effort left in me, to pull sufficient rebuttals....accurate rebuttals, to refute your post.
Let's allow the audience, who are no doubt going to read these exchanges, chime in, for the mean time.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Mao (atheist zealot) killed millions of Christians. Stalin (atheist zealot) burned 100s of churches and killed millions of Christians
Persecution of Christians in Atheist Soviet Union
The most oppressive and human-killing regime's have been when Atheists have taken over governments. Nevertheless, atheists claim that people of faith are to blame for mass amounts of people's lives being taken. This is not based on facts. In the past century, Atheism forced its beliefs on people of faith or simply slaughtered hundreds of millions of them.
Russian Atheist Government Atrocities:
The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. The main target of the anti-religious campaign in the 1920s and 1930s was the Russian Orthodox Church, which had the largest number of faithful. Nearly all of its clergy, and many of its believers, were shot or sent to labor camps. Actions against Orthodox priests and believers along with execution and being sent to labour camps, included torture, prison camps or mental hospitals. Christians were also subjected to psychological punishment or torture and mind control experimentation in order to force them give up their religious convictions. Theological schools were closed, and church publications were prohibited.
The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools.
Many Christian believers in the Soviet Union were imprisoned for no other reason than believing in God. Many have recently been canonized as saints following their death at the hands of Soviet authorities.
An intense ideological anti-Christian campaign was carried out throughout the history of the Soviet Union. An extensive education and propaganda campaign was undertaken to convince people, especially the children and youth, not to become believers. The role of the Christian religion and the Church was painted in black colors in school textbooks
School students were encouraged to taunt and use peer pressure against classmates wearing crosses or otherwise professing their faith. In the 1920s there were many "anti-God" publications and social clubs sponsored by the government, most notably the scathingly satirical "Godless at the Workbench" (безбожник).
Criticism of atheism in the Soviet Union was strictly forbidden and could lead to imprisonment. Anti-religious propaganda was openly sponsored and encouraged by the government, which the Church was not given an opportunity to publicly respond to. The government youth organization, the Komsomol, encouraged its members to vandalize Orthodox Churches and harass worshippers. Source: Википедия
Major Causes of War
Three Major Causes of War There are many problems or things that have or may cause wars. I’m going to talk about three major causes of war. These three causes are: religion, politics, and land disputes. The first major cause of war is religion. Religion is a very person and important matter to many people. This is the reason that it causes so many conflicts. Beliefs are very import
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i'm fed up with this thread. you've clearly ignored the content of my post in favor of your ridiculous notion that you need to demonize atheists, to the point that you accuse me of whining.
'm saying something simple.
it's just a fact of the human condition
it would be a miraculous fluke if a group didn't.
you're just here to demonize atheists to serve your petty agenda.
the denial of ignorance would be the denial of such ridiculous behavior and the closing of this thread.
Another atheist thread?" Well, isn't that surprising...
Your initial thread post was interesting, and way off the topic of there being any connections at all that "Atheism airbrushing history" as to discredit your belief system. Atheism is a personal choice, made by individuals. Just like your belief system, anyone can make their own choices, and what ever particular sect they chose is also going to be affected by their actions to blame the whole tribe of his beliefs and moral qualifications? I think not. I don't hold you responsible for the Spanish inquisition anymore than I believe there is a true God. "Nice try though."
nd for your information, there are actually three major causes of war, and it is quite unique to find that the categories are exactly what you try to defend in your original thread post.
On your thread post, you had put a web page there as a source of your information for the "Darwinian" explanations of how atheists are airbrushing history and how his works influenced men to become atheist. Well, I have to agree with your first few posters that are atheist, "That is really far fetched." Though I have read "Origins of Species" it had no impact on my current status of being an atheist. So, best drop that for an argument.
Why can't society with this "Jesus" like, or "Savior Characteristics" just leave the atheists alone, we don't want to follow your lead, and a true atheist never would, so quit giving us a black eye for defense of your insecurities and delusional belief systems
The role of religion in civil unrest and war:
Often, the media does not identify the precise causes of some of the conflicts around the world. Clashes are frequently described as being ethnic in origin, even though religion may have been a main cause.
The true causes of unrest are sometimes difficult to determine. Frequently, there are a mixture of political alliances, economic differences, ethnic feuds, religious differences and others: 1
In Northern Ireland, "the troubles" are partly rooted in Catholic/Protestant differences, partly in political allegiances, and probably partly in hatreds that go back so far that the exact reason is lost in the mists of time.
The Rwanda genocide was mainly between the Hutu majority and the Tutsi minority. The religious split in the country (75% Christian, 25% indigenous) appears to not have been a significant factor.
The war in Bosnia-Herzegovina was among three faith groups, (Muslim, Roman Catholic, and Serbian Orthodox).
The horrendous civil war in Sudan has a significant religious component. But inter-tribal warfare, racial and language conflicts are also involved.
A group of world religious leaders from the Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox Christian, Jewish, Muslim and many other faiths met in Geneva Switzerland during 1999-OCT. They issued a document, The Geneva Spiritual Appeal, asking political and religious leaders and organizations to ensure that religions are not used to justify violence in the future. Delegates believed that that then-current 56 conflicts have religious elements.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Would you like some whine with that cheese MIMS?
Nope thanks to your buddy weedwhacker who kicked this thread back up. We got to reveal how atheists have airbrushed the history of Galileo. Which was a brand new piece of evidence of atheists airbrushing history.
So thanks to weed for keeping this thread very much fresh and alive!
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Allred5923
so buddha's bad too?
Never really said a thing about Buddhism, "Did I ?"
It's just a belief system or deity anyway, nothing to miraculous here, just another religion in my eyes.
and what about that ra fella?
horus? osiris? krishna? indra? shiva? thor? odin? not good either?
All prefabricated deities that the Christians don't even believe in, and why should I care if you got offended by my posted opinion and examples? I don't really care, it was stated to prove a religious aspect is there for a cause of war.
any particular reason you feel this way?
Yes, there is. "I am atheist." 'enough said? Good.
So, what's your prerogative here, or point for that matter?
And by the way, all the deities you had mentioned, they should have capital letter's in the first letter position. FYI