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I dunno about very polite hehe, look up some of my posts on other threads.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
You are a very polite person.
I take it you mean your research has led you to believe they have a moral code or lack therof that you don't agree with?Let me be the first Atheist to agree with you that some Atheists have bad moral judgement. Some use Atheism to justify their worldview, some don't. I don't, Atheism is a byproduct of my worldview.The point is, every religion,philosophy, or ideology has people who claim to believe in it, but also lack good moral judgement. It's a human condition, one that we're not likely to overcome anytime soon.
One of the biggest reasons that surprised me being morality and the Moral Law.
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Cant say that I have. However I don't believe that human morality can prove or disprove God's existence. Simply because morality varies from culture to culture and from time period to time period. Universal human morality would be consistent and eternal, and what we have and have had is not.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Gigatronix
No I mean the very existence of universal human morality proves Gods existence. Didn't you watch my video before?
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Originally posted by GigatronixSimply because morality varies from culture to culture and from time period to time period. Universal human morality would be consistent and eternal, and what we have and have had is not.
Simply because morality varies from culture to culture and from time period to time period. Universal human morality would be consistent and eternal, and what we have and have had is not.
Yes things changed because our concept of morality changed. Our concept of morality will continue to change.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Gigatronix
Simply because morality varies from culture to culture and from time period to time period. Universal human morality would be consistent and eternal, and what we have and have had is not.
That is a common modern error due to the logical inconsistencies of the atheist faith. There is such a thing as absolute truth and a Moral Law written in our consciences. This thread reveals what happens to political systems that deny that...
No actually morality doesn't vary at all. Just perceptions of the circumstances do. For instance we used to burn witches... now we don't... you might tell me our morals changed. No they didn't. We used to believe witches murdered people with curses and destroyed crops. Now we don;t believe that anymore. We still think murder and destroying property is wrong... we just don't think witches do it. Americans eat cows. East Indians don't. Indians believe their grand mas soul might be in a cow... Americans don't eat grand ma either... The morality isn't different just the perception of the circumstances.
Yes things changed because our concept of morality changed. Our concept of morality will continue to change.
To take a page out of your book(literally) The OT was written for Jews yes? Why are their laws so different from NT laws? Because things changed apparently, here I thought the word of God was eternal and universal, but apparently different kinds of people need different kinds of laws.
This universal law/moral code stuff sounds like a bunch of self-serving religious blackmailing(again)
Join us so you will know the perfect moral code, if you do not you're an illogical morally bankrupt degenerate thats going to hell!
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Gigatronix
Still missed the point. Your so called "atheist morals" are the same God given morals everyone else has. The fact that humanity shares a moral law is what points to a moral law giver.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by riley
:shk: that's a laugh!
Sorry human morality goes completely against evolution. Evolution says we do what is necessary to survive and have your DNA carry on to the next generation.
Morality tells us we "ought" to do something even when its not to to our genetic advantage.
If evolution is responsible for morality then eugenics is completely moral.
No it doesn't.