Chinese Security Forces Swarm Tibet

Originally posted by 27jd
reply to post by ikaruga

 

Whatever you say bro.

I'm not tryin to stir up too much trouble for Chinese intel, last thing I need is a nasty computer virus or walk out of my home tomorrow morning and be surrounded by ninjas with swords and sh*t....go China!

[edit on 20-3-2008 by 27jd]

Hahahaha...I wish I worked for Chinese intel. The pay would be better then what I am doing now.

Ninjas are from Japan, not China. Nice one.

reply to post by wwssii


Yes wwssi I knew that Tibetan nobels did hold slaves, however all Tibetans were not slaves. Kind of an internal problem not unlike the internal problems of slave labor and human rights violations going on in china right now. Does china need an invasion from another country to cure her internal ills?

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by wwssii

 

Yes wwssi I knew that Tibetan nobels did hold slaves, however all Tibetans were not slaves. Kind of an internal problem not unlike the internal problems of slave labor and human rights violations going on in china right now. Does china need an invasion from another country to cure her internal ills?

Does America need an invasion from another country to stop policing the world and spouting meaningless rhetoric?

Originally posted by ikaruga
Ninjas are from Japan, not China. Nice one.

I know that, I was being silly. The Chinese don't have any assassins that evoke the visual humor ninjas in pajamas do.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by 27jd]

reply to post by ikaruga


Sure, wanna give it a try?

Hope you bring your floaties...

edit: see there? I was brought down to your levels and came across as arrogant. I feel so unclean now and promise to remain civil.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by 27jd]

reply to post by Witness2008


you know nothing about tibet at all dear witness.
welcome invasion, i am looking forward to seeing you in the frontline. LOL.

reply to post by 27jd


According to chinawhite they track down your IP address and throw you in jail. There has been some interest in my time zone. But given the intamacy growing between wwssi and I... I don't think I have anything to worry about.

reply to post by Witness2008


Hahahaha...I have been in China for three years. I search what I want, when I want on the net. If a website is blocked, the proxy servers are always up.

I still haven't been put in jail. I routinely have discussions with Chinese concerning religion, politics, and the past.

China is not Communist. They are, if anything, an agressive capitalist-socialist state. The government is run with the cooperation of key industries and corporations. Basically, the same way as the United States is. Only difference being, instead of filling the media with a bunch of lies and disinformation in regards to their practices and policies, the Chinese choose to say nothing at all.

What's the difference?

Originally posted by ikaruga
Does the American military let reporters and human rights observers into warzones in Iraq?

Is Tibet officially a warzone, then?

And what makes you so sure you would understand the truth when you don't even understand the complexity of the issue.

What makes you so sure you understand the complexity of the issue when you can't even get access to the truth?

Most of you are only looking at this issue from one side, failing to take the time to understand Chinese or Tibetan culture in any of this.

Chinese culture has no place in any of this.

Originally posted by wwssii
Tibet sees the fastest-growth rate among China's provinces.

Tibet isn't a Chinese province, so the massive growth rate benefiting the Han immigrants is of no value in this argument except to point out that is exactly why the Tibetans are protesting, because they are not benefiting.

i can't find such things like rape, torture or genocide in the world only except the iraq and aphaganstan.

Damn, only two countries in this world have rape, torture or genocide.

Tibetans live good lives and will also brace a prosperous future.

You've been there and seen it? 'Cause this guy obviously has...

Originally posted by ikaruga
Wow, you Pro-Tibet for no reason people must are really fishing at the bottom of the barrel now. I am not personally attacking anyone. I am merely stating that people who have no real experience with China or Tibet and who obtain all their news and information from various internet media outlets are looking at this issue the wrong way.

Not only that, but he also knows exactly where we get our information. Geez, the Exterior Ministry is almost as good as the Interior Ministry!

And it's not being full of yourself when you are right.

Yeah, it is and no, you ain't.

Originally posted by wwssii
my info: Registered: 17-7-2005

i never started any post since here is your place. i just reply on some post i know some about.

Well, now, this being a conspiracy site, you're doing a great job of fuelling the "China monitors content/net attack brigades" theory. I mean, as secret agents go, you're about as discrete as 007. Why bother to register if you're just here to keep an eye on the anti-China posting? Surely it would be a little more covert just to lurk...

Originally posted by ikaruga
The fact still remains: Tibet is much better off under Chinese rule. Akin to Africa under British rule.

Holy Crap, but you don't know jack, do you?

Africa was ruled by the Brits, the Germans, the French, the Belgians, the Protuguese, the Italians...

Africa under British rule...you mean Isandlwhana, Rorke's Drift, Matabeleland...

Or is it that the only thing you know about Africa is that Robert Mugabe has engineered inflation of 100,000%?

Hahahaha....I am an American. I don't work for the PRC. Do you really think the Chinese government has nothing better to do than care about what goes on at ATS?

Sometimes I wonder.

Might be time to jump back down from that ledge you are living on and back onto the firm soil of reality.

Good words to live by...

I am merely a man who is able to take information from all sides, make my own observations, and subsequently form my own opinions.

Don't worry, we're all laughing with you. Or at you. Well, near you. You do know what the word "stooge" means, right?

Originally posted by wwssii
before liberation, tibetans were mostly slaves exploited by Dalai and other landlords or nobles.
after the liberation, Tibetans began their really life as human

Um, small point, but most of the rest of us began our lives as humans, too. No, really.

Such tired old crap. You know, the British Raj tried to claim the same things about India, how they'd liberated the people from various froms of slavery. Funny that a little bald bloke in a robe and glasses told them all to piss off back home where they belonged. Or is that parralel a little too hard to follow?

And one question: Which history books did you read to form that opinion about Tibet and the Tibetans prior to "liberation"? I'm sure we'd find them fascinating reading...


[edit on 20-3-2008 by HowlrunnerIV]

Originally posted by Witness2008
According to chinawhite they track down your IP address and throw you in jail.

I'm probably safe here in the states....for now.

There has been some interest in my time zone.

Watch your back, ninjas can climb walls, I've seen it on TV...

reply to post by 27jd


They might be able to climb walls, but they can't fight on the beach, that's for damn sure

they are FAST (the quickness with which their ass gets kicked is just amazing)

www.imdb.com...

Besides, everyone knows Ninjas are AMERICAN...

Well, now, this being a conspiracy site, you're doing a great job of fuelling the "China monitors content/net attack brigades" theory. I mean, as secret agents go, you're about as discrete as 007. Why bother to register if you're just here to keep an eye on the anti-China posting? Surely it would be a little more covert just to lurk...

LOL..LOL.. you really make me laugh. how old r u? your imagination should be fit for the screenplayer of holywood.

dont quote too much and make your post a big mess with no logic. you would be better to provide some concrete proofs for your remarks.

reply to post by wwssii


Thanks for the advice. I'll return the favour, by giving you some.

Don't tell a native English-speaking English teacher how to construct an argument. Instead of lashing out and losing even more face, just admit that your language skills aren't quite up to the task of fully comprehending what you read.

See, I'll admit that I can't read a word of Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese) and would never dream of telling a native-speaker of either how s/he should use his/her own language.

As for what makes you laugh, read on and follow the link and then follow the link's link, then come back to me and ask how old I am and whose imagination I'm quoting...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

As for being a screenwriter in Hollywoodland...I'll stick with television news right now, but thanks for the advice...

Dalai Lama: 'I am prepared to face China. I will go to Beijing'

Winning the backing of camera-friendly celebrities and power-wielding politicians has long been the strength of the smiling and avuncular 1989 Nobel laureate. Laughing, joking and yet utterly serious all in the space of a sentence, this is a role he continues to play to perfection as the cause to which he has devoted his life receives unprecedented world attention. Never more than now has he needed to stress the importance of non-violent protest and the limited nature of the movement's demands.

"The Chinese constitution already mentions autonomy [for Tibet]. So that should not be just a word on paper but implemented on the spot," he said, sitting in front of a statue of the Buddha. "The whole world knows Dalai Lama is not seeking independence, one hundred times, a thousand times I have repeated this. It is my mantra – we are not seeking independence."

Its interesting he says the Chinese "constitution" allows for a autonomous Tibet. This may be exactly what the Tibetans want, more control over their land, and less input from the Chinese.

Whatever they want, I hope they get it.

reply to post by HowlrunnerIV


It hurts when you run out of real arguments, doesn't it?

Time to attack language skills! Language is a tool for expressing ideas. If his ideas are adequately expressed, then he has succeded.

OK let's all remember that to further the debate, which is, I assume, what we are all interested in, one must go after the ball, not the player. Aiming attacks at members is neither productive nor desired.

Terms and Conditions of Use 2) Behavior.

Thank you in advance for refraining from any further such action.

Jak

Originally posted by ikaruga
reply to post by Witness2008

 

Hahahaha...I have been in China for three years. I search what I want, when I want on the net. If a website is blocked, the proxy servers are always up.

I still haven't been put in jail. I routinely have discussions with Chinese concerning religion, politics, and the past.

China is not Communist. They are, if anything, an agressive capitalist-socialist state. The government is run with the cooperation of key industries and corporations. Basically, the same way as the United States is. Only difference being, instead of filling the media with a bunch of lies and disinformation in regards to their practices and policies, the Chinese choose to say nothing at all.

What's the difference?

If you can't tell the difference between China and the US, you've probably never been to the US. Ask a US citiizen to give up even a small piece of freedom, and your in for a fight. Ask the same of someone in China, and they consider it part of life. That difference alone isn't lost when personally experienced.

You clearly can't be as dumb as your last comment implies though, because it requires some skill to get around the Chinese firewall. Agreed it is done all the time, but not everyone knows how. You take your knowledge for granted if you fail to see how most Chinese struggle with access to information, in many cases information they are unaware is even out there.

reply to post by darksided


Haha...you guy really think the whole internet is blocked in China?

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

That's comical as all being! Seriously though, ATS is never blocked in China no matter what the political situation because no one takes ATS seriously in the world.

At least, that is, no one who matters, which I must admit is me as well. Haha...I post on ATS because I don't do jack-all in China and I like it that way.

I am at heart a lazy man as far as society sees; yet, I rather enjoy surfing the censored web in China to find a bit of intellectual exchange, which, in all truth, is only to be found on ATS.

Originally posted by worldtruth
America, this is your Western Media: youtube.com...

And thus it begins... first the propaganda war on BOTH side....

I have been saying for some time we are setting the stage for a planned war with China... seems my 'prophecy' is unfolding... and well before the end of 2008 and Bush's reign

Time to stock the bunkers

Originally posted by worldtruth
actually I live here in annapolis, CA

Good one! Shows how quick people jump to conclusions.

Whats really nuts is that here on ATS we are constantly saying our own Mainstream News media is lying, covering up and working for the NWO Just look around at the 911 threads for one...

Yet now the media is suddenly telling us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth....



One thing that has my radar up.... the announcement that Chinese can not access youtube... Now is this possible that they can actually control this? I have been studying the Echelon listening posts around the world run by the NSA... I know they can literally tune in on EVERYTHING... but I did not know they could block...

I may be naive about this... but the concept is frightening






and watch your news everyday on tv cable. quite a many american are very brain-washed. i feel sorry for some you. but if you look back in history, the truth always prevails. most country already know the truth, but still not tv news controlled by america. your government very corrupted but one day corruption will be overthrown.

why you not believe truth? Can you please list detail and where you get detail from? I just want to know how americans think.

thanks verry much.