No, I will not vaccinate my children!, page 5
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reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 12:36 PM by pexx421
my point there wasnt to provide evidence of medicine or treatment, it was to show that there are whole alternative branches of medicine that allopathic doctors know absolutely nothing about. All the latest studies show that cholesterol is necessary, that Decreased cholesterol levels are linked to Increased mortality over the age of 50, and that statins give 0 total reduction in mortality due to heart attack or stroke, and damage liver over time, and yet they are still the #1 sold drug in america. Again, the point is that western doctors dont know everything, the majority of medicine is theory, most "studies" are done by pharmeceutical companies, and studies funded by groups with monetary interest are proven to most often favor the companies desired outcome, regardless of the "truth".
Western medicine is AWFUL for health maintenance. Its the best for emergency or trauma treatment, but as far as prevention goes, we are now ranked 37th among industrialized nations due to the "greatness" of our preventive healthcare...or lack thereof.
Many things are accepted truth in other countries where there is no corporate opposition making tons of money off of it but here in america they are considered controversial or debated, because the corporations stand to lose money when the truth comes out, such as Flouride, Global Warming, etc. Vaccines are debated worldwide because big pharma is a multinational megacorp, but i believe one day it will be grouped with the others.



reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 12:47 PM by pexx421
as far as people not believing anecdotal evidence, but believing what doctors tell them. If you ever read ANYTHING about the politics of medicine and pharmeceutical studies, you would see that the majority of drug "research and study" is so much voodoo. Often the reports are written up by ghost writers, and a doctor is paid 5-10k to sign off on a report he never even reads. usually a group is paid to do 40-50 experiments with a drug to find out with methods of experiment is most likely to give the results the company wants, THEN all the other studies are thrown out with any information about side effects or mortality disposed of and only that 1 study is released. This is just the beginning, and the end is usually when the drug goes before an FDA board where more than 40% of the board members are usually on the payroll of those pharm companies. This is all well documented, with many whistleblowers coming out in the last few years, and the response was for the FDA to be granted a new task force whos job it is to Do the research FOR the pharm companies with our taxpayer dollars. Make no mistake, Pharma does value dollars more than lives, and to make my last point is this fact
The Only point of the heavy metals and many toxins in most vaccines is the difference of 1 or 2 dollars of profit. You can ask your doctor for preservative free vaccines and it costs you just 2 dollars more. Have you heard that before? most people havent. Why? Because profit is more important than YOU.



reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 12:50 PM by FredT
Yawn..... oh joy another 'Im not vaccinating my kid thread" as if the 80 already here on ATS were not enough.

First off, the anti vaccine crowd draws Autism like a gun.

Nevermind that the diagnosis criteria has changed and it catching mnay more within its net.

nevermind that children of military families which recieved more vaccinations than the norm do NOT have a higher rate.

Nevermind that NONE of the anti vaccine crowd can show statistics about countries in the EU having dramatically lowered autism rates DESPITE the fact that thier vaccines have been thimerisol free for a long time.

nevermind the vaccines in the US have by and large been thimerisol free for years now.

Nevermind that a recently published peer reviewed study showed that there was no sig. in neurological disorders in children that got thimersol versus those who dont.

Nevermind that terrible and preventable diseases have been pretty much wiped off the face of the planet by simple vaccinations.

Man I could go on for hours, but the simple fact is tha through bad science, or a simple desire to be fashionable or trendy some of you are hell bent on making perhaps one fo the biggest mistakes of your lives. Mind you wont pay but your child might.

I have seen the firsthand effects of such asinine logic. How stupid can you be to not take the simple steps to prevent these diseases in children. Would you strap your 1 year old into a car without a infant seat? The death of a child from pertussis, or measeals is one fo the most hideous deaths you can imagine. Aside from what the child goes through the family is often worse off.

Its also fun to be trendy when you do not have to foot the bill. So for those of you who want to do so and NOT vaccinate your children. You should be required to cash pay for treatment of any preventable diseases they contract. Why should my taxes AND rates be jacked up for your asinine practice? How many of you will own up to that?


reply posted on 24-11-2007 @ 01:02 PM by yahn goodey
reply to post by stompk



thanks stompk for the video----------what was said--------maybe not in my own words----------but what has been my wife and i---- both our opinions for 40 years is the same------------needles-----no thanks--------we dont even like seeing poor lab animals tortured let alone humans being used as guinni pigs for doctors to play being "gods" with their sacrificial victims.
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