I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Hello Sleeper.

Isn't "Free Will" a bit of a fable they hoist on us? Is that why they keep on telling us, over and over, that we have it, free will, to make us believe that we do? They certainly would want to make us believe that we have free will, so we wouldn't know that much of what we think and do is being controlled by them.

Free will comes with conditions we can’t choose to not pay taxes, or to earn a living, or when we die. Ok we can choose any of those---free will---and pay the consequences

But, as we have seen in Sleeper's blog, when Mike was directed from the camera shop, through another door that led him into the locker area, that his actions were being controlled by Milton.

No more than a door opening at a grocery store when we approach it---that store is enticing us to come in---

Also, (I think?) Sleeper has said that some of what he writes here and has written in the blog was written under the influence of the Milton entity. If that is possible, then anyone on Earth can be, and probably is, controlled similarly, at any time. So where is the free will?

In choosing not to be controlled by bad habits, deeds, or desires---even if they are from Milton type beings---remember the best way to catch a criminal is via a sting

Much of human behavior is instinctive or habitual in nature, some of it might be controlled or influenced by 'advertising' and mind control techniques, or by superior entities like Milton, so most probably, only a little of human behavior can really be attributed to any sort of 'free will'.

Enough to get sent to the back or the front of the line---lol

And, what about smokers, can their 'free will' make them stop and quit smoking cigarettes once they have become addicted?

The addiction is punishment enough don’t you agree?

If Earth is a game board, and we humans are simply the game pieces being 'played' by vastly superior unknown 'spiritual masters', then where is the free will? Perhaps the 'free will' only resides in our controllers, our higher selves, our oversouls?

Earth is a stage, and we put on our best show---those higher up than Milton will review your performance with you---like Simon

Originally posted by sleeper
Earth is a stage, and we put on our best show---those higher up than Milton will review your performance with you---like Simon

Higher up beings always think they are better than me. If I could right now I'd consume them all.

I'm so tired.

Hm... nice one Zero. Looks like we have more in common than originally thought. Check your inbox. I too am sick of the perpetual garbage... some don't have grasps on time it seems.

"We humans don’t even know if there is water on the moon---yet we pretend to know what is occurring on planets in the furthest reaches of this solar system.

Every single thing we think we know today will be the butt of jokes in less than fifty years.

Rewriting history and science is the only constant"


Sleeper, John and all,

I have been following many of the threads here at ATS for some time now. Lone before joining I have enjoyed the varied personalities and points of views. Every now and again a gift...a pearl of wisdom appears. The above quote said it all.




Thanks
Highly informational and inspiring.

cyberdillo
P.S. I also was born and lived in Patterson NJ in the late 50's

Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Hello Sleeper, read any good poems lately?

As T.S. Eliot once said in a famous poem, "Then the fire and the rose shall become one." Can Milton help us interpret lines like these?

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.

I don’t read poetry and this is not a Milton question and he told me not to answer it

But I will hazard a guess anyway, “fire and rose” good and evil combine and cancel out the other.

And the next one is perpetual reincarnation


If that’s incorrect I have no choice but to end my life---the humiliation being too much to bear!

Or better yet I will take up poetry---nah, I don’t think so---lol I’ve already been made fun of because I love to garden

To conclude on the issue of "These bad asses".

1. Can you please describe their interaction/relationship/influence with the planet and humans?

2. Have they been alluded to in any specific mythology ex: "enuma elish" or "Jataka tales" or "vedic scriptures"?

Thank You Sleeper!

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Rudolph_X
Sleeper, aren't we all just searchin' for 'a place in the sun'?

Unless you are ET you might want to avoid direct contact with the sun---lol

Back in 1957 we moved to America and Paterson NJ was the first place we lived---moved away two years later. Have never been back there, how is Paterson now days Rudolph?

Paterson is still a great place to live. They recently put up a statue of Lou Costello, holding a baseball bat (commemorating his 'who's on first' joke), down on Cianci Street, across from the eternal Roma Club, where we go for our expressos. Its in the 'little Italy' section of town, just down from the 'Great Falls' area, where our great 'historic' waterfalls is located, and where the waters can still spin those wheels that drove the mills of days gone by, and then generated electricity in more modern times. The big wheel still keeps churning.

HBO shot a lot of scenes from the Soprano's here, the one where they threw a guy off the bridge into the waterfalls, and another where Tony is planning a hit right under the statue of Lou Costello. Tony probably got a free expresso in the Roma Club that night (You know all the celebrities like freebies).

George Washington once slept where we now have the Passaic County Golf Course, and fought here during the war of independence, and that house there is now a museum. Alexander Hamilton, another hero of the American Revolution and a Founding Father of our nation (the guy on the five dollar bill), is our city's founder, as you know, and his statue is still by the Great Falls. Thanks to him Paterson is the first planned industrial city in America, and sparked the industrial revolution in the 'new world', so its got quite a history. (I won't even mention the history of the Leni Lenape indians who inhabited the area before colonial times, and who had fantastic 'native American' festivals by the Great Falls in their time. Exept to say that some are thinking of giving some of the land back to the indians so they can build casinos here.)

Being an old city Paterson has had a lot of 'firsts'. The first American submarine, the first American rail road train engines, the first Colt repeating pistol (the gun that won the west), and a whole host of other 'firsts' makes Paterson and interesting old American town.

I've already spoken about Allen Ginsberg, the great American 'beatnick' poet who was also born here, and there are lots of other interesting people who were born in, who lived, and who passed through our town, too many to mention here. Although, I should mention that Dr. William Carlos Williams, a poet/physician, wrote a great epic poem called, "Paterson", in 1946, which describes our city and some of its truly surreal history, and can be got in paperback book form. (How many other cities throughout history have a great epic poem written about them?)

Garret Mountain (yes we also have a great mountain with a big castle on it in addition to our great waterfalls) still has the underground alien base in it, I suspect. There is also a nice jogging trail up in the mountain very similar to the one in your blog (where I used to go jogging and now seem to want to avoid), that has a wonderful observation area where one can view mountain vistas. It was named after Garret Augustus Hobart, the 24th vice president of the United States, who lived here and was once on the city council of Paterson.

As you can imagine, I could go on and on talking about the wonders of my hometown Paterson, but I'll cut it short here. When I look outside my window I can see the great New York City skyline (about 15 miles away), from the George Washington Bridge to the Empire State Building and down to where I can remember seeing the black clouds billowing up from the Twin Towers one cool September morning not so long ago.

Thanks again.


[edit on 1/26/2007 by Rudolph_X]

Originally posted by smallpeeps
sleeper, are humans regularly subjected to memory-erasure via handheld device as seen in Men in Black? I think it would not be hard for ET to build such a device and even to have it function such that a whole square mileage of land could be memory-eradicated if people's eyes could be focused on one point. Not hard to send a reboot code into the human brain via the optic nerve. ...and surely such a memory-erasure/reboot code does exist in the brain, as hypnosis demonstrates. Any thoughts on this?

ETs can do a blanket mind alter and black ops also has the capability with hand held devices and other means similar to what ET uses---but they are restricted on where and who they use it on---hence Abu Ghraib could not be covered up.

Seeing the wave is not necessary—for one it’s invisible---the human brain is both a transmitter and receiver of a vast spectrum of, well, the electromagnetic spectrum---but most of those circuits in the brain lay dormant and can only be activated by higher non human entities.

Seeing the wave is not necessary—for one it’s invisible---the human brain is both a transmitter and receiver of a vast spectrum of, well, the electromagnetic spectrum---but most of those circuits in the brain lay dormant and can only be activated by higher non human entities.

Hello sleeper

Are you aware of any connection between the endocrine system, and the ability to access a broader range of the EM spectrum? Also, your feelings on the practice of various forms of meditation that purport to encourage the energizing of this system. I am referring more specifically to the pineal, and pituitary glands....Thank You....

Peace &
Good Fortune
OBE1

Sleeper. I appreciate and have greatly enjoyed your posts. And though I read your story I have to admit I did not read beyond the first 6 or 7 pages of this, thus far, 43 page thread. Based on that, I can only hope that your detractors have moved on. Honestly, why the continued fascination with this thread if one does not find it valid?
Anyway, the story is excellent and I view it as believable, revealing and useful. I note that if one is to view it as a model, it is quite comparable to others such as the reincarnation model and any that view the Earth as a 'workshop' where we work and grow on a spiritual level. The first time I ever heard such a concept stated so clearly was by Stan Deyo on the beloved Coast To Coast Am show. Are you familiar? Anyway, this is my question and if it has already been answered then my apologies: What was the motivation and intended result of Milton (and his kind) by revealing some of the "truth" to you? How was this intended to help you? I'll throw in another one for you: If the few, somewhere within the military industrial complex or government or private leaders who may be genuinely "in the know" as to what is going on, are motivated to threaten lives (eg. government cover-up of various sorts--assuming these are true) , then can it be, perhaps, because, revelation of the true nature of our planet and it's purpose would ruin it functionally and make it obsolete, perhaps justifying some sort of destruction and THIS being the motivation for the severity of the threats that so many report to have received?

Hi sleeper,did the ETs ever explained why we have fingerprints,do they need our fingerprints for identification?



[edit on 27-1-2007 by KREATOR]

Originally posted by EA
To conclude on the issue of "These bad asses".

1. Can you please describe their interaction/relationship/influence with the planet and humans?

2. Have they been alluded to in any specific mythology ex: "enuma elish" or "Jataka tales" or "vedic scriptures"?

Thank You Sleeper!

Their trademark was human sacrifice and cannibalism, they love blood sport---gladiator stuff, and often consumed whole villages to quench their insatiable lust for blood. They were left alone until their desire spilled over into populations not of their own.

I’m not dropping names to protect the innocent and to keep from offending any race that might believe themselves decedents---any descendent has been highly diluted, but not completely, lust for blood remains a plague on this planet.

Originally posted by Rudolph_X
As you can imagine, I could go on and on talking about the wonders of my hometown Paterson, but I'll cut it short here. When I look outside my window I can see the great New York City skyline (about 15 miles away), from the George Washington Bridge to the Empire State Building and down to where I can remember seeing the black clouds billowing up from the Twin Towers one cool September morning not so long ago.

Thanks again.

By all means Rudolph, continue----I was very young when we lived there but I remember a convent behind our apartment. My brother, cousin and I spent many days driving the nuns’ crazy; we got into their flower gardens and they didn’t like it. There was also a waterfall near us because I could hear it even from inside our house. We hunted for frogs and turtles at the lake. I have many good memories of Paterson and a place called Midville?

Thanks for jolting some memories about the town of Paterson---the preacher that married my wife and I is named Paterson---he retired afterward---come on there is some mysterious meaning here---lol

Sleeper

All your words fascinate me and illuminate my perception of our World

I am a third of the way through your 100 plus page post about ALiens being as real as your nose

I have yet to read one sentence from you that doesn't seem like it is divinely inspired and 100 % dead on or at least as clear as we are able to concieve and interpret things

Thank you so much for all your words (gifts)

Unbound gratitude

I am devastated by how engrossed I am with your story


Futant Mutant

Damon

Originally posted by OBE1

Seeing the wave is not necessary—for one it’s invisible---the human brain is both a transmitter and receiver of a vast spectrum of, well, the electromagnetic spectrum---but most of those circuits in the brain lay dormant and can only be activated by higher non human entities.

Hello sleeper

Are you aware of any connection between the endocrine system, and the ability to access a broader range of the EM spectrum?

The endocrine system is leading edge stuff and operates on many levels including EM spectrum---even though it’s hard wired to the brain it also receives instruction via the brain wave and that mysterious stuff known as ether.

Also, your feelings on the practice of various forms of meditation that purport to encourage the energizing of this system. I am referring more specifically to the pineal, and pituitary glands....Thank You....
Peace &
Good Fortune
OBE1

Most forms of meditation are good for the mind and the whole of the nervous and endocrine systems. While in college I did some bio feedback that helped me relax, but I don’t have the patients to meditate anymore---

Originally posted by Corbin Dalus
Anyway, the story is excellent and I view it as believable, revealing and useful. I note that if one is to view it as a model, it is quite comparable to others such as the reincarnation model and any that view the Earth as a 'workshop' where we work and grow on a spiritual level. The first time I ever heard such a concept stated so clearly was by Stan Deyo on the beloved Coast To Coast Am show. Are you familiar?

Not familiar with Stan Deyo, nor unfortunately do I get to listen to ctoc

Anyway, this is my question and if it has already been answered then my apologies: What was the motivation and intended result of Milton (and his kind) by revealing some of the "truth" to you?

Some of the stuff was not unlocked---my memory was not altered completely when I was inserted into this world---I remember my trip to earth and being placed into the baby’s body and fully conscious of my reality while a baby---I was not left alone and they continued to hang out with me and take me off planet---otherwise I would have gone insane---can you imagine being stuck inside a baby as an adult?---it took lots of nectar and frequent trips of R & R off planet to get me through it---oh but the nectar was so sweet I can still taste it---pure heaven!

How was this intended to help you?

Helping me is secondary

I'll throw in another one for you: If the few, somewhere within the military industrial complex or government or private leaders who may be genuinely "in the know" as to what is going on, are motivated to threaten lives (eg. government cover-up of various sorts--assuming these are true) , then can it be, perhaps, because, revelation of the true nature of our planet and it's purpose would ruin it functionally and make it obsolete, perhaps justifying some sort of destruction and THIS being the motivation for the severity of the threats that so many report to have received?

No matter the info that permeates onto this planet most will not receive it---the info I bring remains exclusive to a niche constituency.

Certainly there is much drama and politicking going on here on earth and off---perhaps to perpetuate confusion---so far they are doing a swell job---lol

Originally posted by KREATOR
Hi sleeper,did the ETs ever explained why we have fingerprints,do they need our fingerprints for identification?

Fingerprints serve a human purpose and lower level entities, higher ups know us via our non-biological soul tag---which is also imprinted in our DNA.

sleeper:

Certainly there are areas where Milton would not want you to speak to. I am wondering which of the following are more sensitive than others, according to what ET (those on your side) does not want revealed yet on Earth.

So which of the following truths are you least allowed to discuss?

1. The massive lies/deception of the world's religions.
2. The true nature of world political leaders (evil, self-serving)
3. The reality and scope of ritual child-sacrifices practiced today.


...IMO all of these things should be known to people and even broadcast worldwide. Which of these three is the most flammable truth and therefore what you are least allowed to talk about?

Originally posted by smallpeeps
sleeper:

Certainly there are areas where Milton would not want you to speak to. I am wondering which of the following are more sensitive than others, according to what ET (those on your side) does not want revealed yet on Earth.

So which of the following truths are you least allowed to discuss?

1. The massive lies/deception of the world's religions.
2. The true nature of world political leaders (evil, self-serving)
3. The reality and scope of ritual child-sacrifices practiced today.


...IMO all of these things should be known to people and even broadcast worldwide. Which of these three is the most flammable truth and therefore what you are least allowed to talk about?

All those truths are self-evident for those inclined to understanding the reason for this life. Unfortunately the façade of evil is necessary for certain sting operations for those not so inclined to the purpose of this life.

No one suffers needlessly more that fools

Originally posted by sleeper
All those truths are self-evident for those inclined to understanding the reason for this life. Unfortunately the façade of evil is necessary for certain sting operations for those not so inclined to the purpose of this life.

No one suffers needlessly more that fools

Could you please clarify "those"? Do you mean those receiving, or doing, the horrible acts 1-3 mentioned above?