Kerry Says Military Servicemen Stupid

Originally posted by TheTraveler
firebat,
What world are you living in?

That would be the planet Earth... any other brilliant questions?

Kerry should have apologized imediately[sic] for the error instead of trying to cover it up by blaming it on a poorly executed joke.

Cover what up? That he was trying to make a joke about Bush? Why cover that up? Anyone who gets their news from a source other than Fox knows damn well what Kerry meant... it's so immature of you people to blow it out of proportion like this, whining about something that he wasn't even implying.

Kerry's obviously a doofus who wouldn't know suave if it bit him on the nose... so call him out for that. A bad joke, admittedly... but if there's anyone who deserves to be joked about, it's Bush. The only thing Kerry has to apologize for is his responding to the critics in the first place who are so desperate to keep the Republicans in office, they'll flat-out put words into the the mouths of people they're not even running against. Pathetic, yet predictable.

I'm glad he's not our president.

Me too.

[edit on 3-11-2006 by firebat]

I think Kerry was attempting a double entendre, intending to both disparage the troops and Bush. When he got called on it, he went with the botched joke about Bush excuse, which is incredible, given the fact that someone who unintentionally offends, usually will immediately apologize for having offended, even if he stands by the intent of his statement.

Kerry's excuse fails on all counts.

An honorable and innocent man would have immediately understood the error and immediately offered a humble clarification.

I guess, at best, we can conclude that humility is not Kerry's strong suit.

[edit on 2006/11/3 by GradyPhilpott]

If he was trying to make a joke than so was the preacher at my grandfathers funeral. That was a concocted excuse to justify his slip up.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I think Kerry was attempting an double entendre, intending to both disparage the troops and Bush. When he got called on it, he went with the botched joke about Bush excuse, which is incredible, given the fact that someone who unintentionally offends, usually will immediately apologize for having offended, even if he stands by the intent of his statement.

Yep... you got it-- Kerry calculated that he could gain more support for the Democratic Party by intentionally INSULTING the American troops... what a crock, and you know it.

This topic is a classic misquote. Kerry (whom i am no big fan of) absolutely never said military servicemen are stupid. This is classic neo-con contorsionist spin.

What Kerry WAS implying is that if bush were better educated, then perhaps he would not have been stupid enough to wage a pre-emptive war against Iraq for no particular reason and no end in sight.

Is the Bush administration really so stupid that they fail to realize that Kerry was calling them stupid? and not the troops?

Or do they know full well thats what hes saying but they decided to play classical 'Rove politics' and distort the truth to the point of being totally FUBAR?!?!

I entirely reject the premise that Kerry was implying anything negative about his blood brothers (which Bush said screw you to when he dodged the draft). Even if that were Kerry's intention, im sure there are plenty of soldiers in Iraq looking at what a quagmire it is and while they are dodging bullets wondering why the hell they are over there, many of them have said, "Man, i wish i went to school so that i didnt have to deal with this $#!7!!!!"

An hey, maybe its not such a hot idea to join the military while a Bush is in office!

[edit on 3-11-2006 by sp00n1]

Originally posted by sp00n1
This topic is a classic misquote. Kerry (whom i am no big fan of) absolutely never said military servicemen are stupid. This is classic neo-con contorsionist spin.

What Kerry WAS implying is that if bush were better educated, then perhaps he would not have been stupid enough to wage a pre-emptive war against Iraq for no particular reason and no end in sight.

Any idiot would realize this... amazing how stubborn these boys are, that they would deceive themselves to believe the crap that they're spewing.

Is the Bush administration really so stupid that they fail to realize that Kerry was calling them stupid? and not the troops?

Yes, they are that stupid but they certainly realized Kerry wasn't intentionally insulting the troops.

Or do they know full well thats what hes saying but they decided to play classical 'Rove politics' and distort the truth to the point of being totally FUBAR?!?!

Of course they know it.... as does everyone on this forum. It's a no-brainer.

Desperation is setting in...

Originally posted by firebat
]Yep... you got it-- Kerry calculated that he could gain more support for the Democratic Party by intentionally INSULTING the American troops... what a crock, and you know it.

You're being naive. Kerry has been disparaging troops for three and a half decades.

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

www.richmond.edu...

What Kerry WAS implying is that if bush were better educated, then perhaps he would not have been stupid enough to wage a pre-emptive war against Iraq for no particular reason and no end in sight.

The issue isn't what he says he meant, its what he actually "said". He should have apologized sincerely for his mistake.

[edit on 3-11-2006 by TheTraveler]