Major terror plot thwarted in London 8-10-2006

Originally posted by ImJaded

Anyone know if this is happening everywhere ?

Because all these airpoarts have flights to the USA. and because none of these nations wants to see thei ppl blown apart by religous fanatic nuts.

Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
Yeah it is happening all over the place, The E.U. are having a meeting next week to draw up and review All the European countries Airport Security Procedures.

World Wide Martial Law????? Anybody

Hmm ok then *sigh*

Well I can still take carry-on luggage though right ? It does say to just keep them neat and clutter free but I can still take stuff on board as long as it doesn't look like I have something there I might mix up to incinerate the plane right ? Like my mascara and contact lens solution.

Also another question I have is, if they are making everyone check everything are they making you pay to check it if you're over the normal check-in weight limit ?
cause I'll be damned if I am payin extra for squat.

The fact is BaastaNoir, is that you have no proof muslims want to dominate the world, cuz there is no proof. You want proof the globalist are trying to dominate the world? Read John Rockefellers autobiography, among many other things you can look for. Look at official government documents such as Operation Northwoods where government planned fake terror attacks on citizens to serve as excuse for war in Cuba in the 60s. Look at whats going on around you, with the wars, and disease, and poverty..do you think there isnt a source for all these things? Of course there is. The source is the globalists, who hoard tremendously ludicrous amounts of money from the population, forcing them to be subserviant.

Use your brain man. Dont think some evil muslim is trying to kill you, that is false. It is stupid. There is no proof. Basic study of Islam and the Koran will tell you otherwise. More detailed research into government black ops agencies will tell you they are responsible for terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda. Its the same with all of these different terrorist organizations, they are run by the MI-6/CIA/ Mossad Elite Secret Services. Facts are facts. Look it up.

Its meant to fool you, they insult the intelligence of human beings by giving us these stories of how the Arabs are evil and must be killed. Dont buy into the propaganda. THERE IS NO PROOF. All the "proof" you may be able to find can surely be debunked because simply its not true. You cant prove something that isnt true.

Originally posted by BaastetNoir

Originally posted by ImJaded

Anyone know if this is happening everywhere ?

Because all these airpoarts have flights to the USA. and because none of these nations wants to see thei ppl blown apart by religous fanatic nuts.

ahhh good ole USA, always finds a way to eff with my life lol
I get it now, thanks.

Really? and does that project explains decades of suicide bombinngs, airplain highjackings, pshycotic attempts of world domination... I don't think so.

Terrorism is not a religion or a group, you trying to give flavor to terrorism, terrorism can be white, black, arabic and so on.

If you believe that this is all propaganda and the goverment makes it all up, why don't you just move to the middle East and join them to fight the evil America ?
The same evil America that gave your Pepsi ... lol

America is not evil , the white house is not america, stop asociating policy with life stile, it's not culture that is the problem, the problem would be US foreign policy, and belive me , it's afecting the world, it's not related to the people of USA or their culture.

My point is , just because a book tells you to kill in the name of a God, doesnt't mean you have to be stupid, cowardly and pshycotic enough to do.

That is right, so no one is doing it, it's your imagination of arabs runing around with plastic knifes inside the plane.

I could care less what the Bible says, I am not a Christians and as far as I know there were no Christians hijacking planes from the 70's to the 80's,

No but can you remember the cusades?

Can you remember the US giving chimical weapons to saddam?
Can you remember the US giving weapons to binladen and to the talibans?
Hmm suporting the terrorists?
I am a cristian, but no matter what I am, I always tend to be fair and to judge things correctly.

there were no Chistians blowing the USA embassies in several Islamic countries,

We dont need to bomb embassies , that is small stuff, we the cristians got nukes, we bombed the hell out of japan?(with nuclear weapons after the war was over)
We bombed the hell out of iraq, afganistan.
we killed killed killed and over killed inocent people.

there were no Christians on the first attack to the Twin Towers or the secodn attack.

Some of us thik different on that mater, remember? inside job.

. and there are no Christians kidnapping Israeli soldiers and blowing a country for lack of better things to do.

Well, let's see why all of this hapend.
let's take a look at Resolution 317 which has not been implemented by israel not even till this day.
You want to know why all of this hapend?
here you go.
Resolution"317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
This resolution is old realy old.

Okay let's put it in other words, you go to the police, you tell them that some one has kidnaped your wife and son , the police then says well we told him to give your family back but what can we do, our hands are tied, and you wait and wait while you comunicate with your kidnaper for months"in the case of israel is years"
and you wait and you wait and wait until your frustration reaches proportions, you finaly decide to take matters in to your own hands.
In the case you are lebanon, the police is the UN and the kidnaper is israel.
To ceck that I'm not BSing you ceck the resolution 317
In it's previos incursion in to lebanon israel has kidnaped people off the street and to this day they have refused to give them back.
This hapend simply as a last resort, there was no other way, they have asked for them back years and years with no result, the UN has asked for their return also years and years.
They captured the soldiers so they can make a swap, because there was no other way, israel was refusing to folow the law.
I guess the news does not tell you that does it

So stop throwing t5he Bible where it is not needed... The problem here in the present world situation is the ISLAM not the bible.

No it's not, bolth text from the bible and from the coran can be leading to conflict, the problem is that you dont see what is hapening, youre full of anger, and a one sided view, a blind man would see this.



[edit on 12-8-2006 by pepsi78]

i viva the blind !

i agree with the pepsi machine, the problem is not the muslims, jews, or christians

the problem is our governments lieing to us and trying to scare us into giving up our freedoms

they released one of the 24 guys they caught the very next day
link:
www.cnn.com...
to me this proves that either the government had no idea what was going on and arrested the man on accident, unlikely,
or they staged the entire thing, charged 24 guys on false charges of conspiracy to commit terrorism, and plan to slowly release them 1 by 1 over the next few weeks/months/years

why would they do this?
to protect you from terrorists of course
for your safety you can no longer bring liquids or jels such as deodorant, drinks, foods, lipsticks, or any other liquid or jel on a plane
if you are in europe you can't even bring a carryon at all!

but remember, it's for your protection, because terrorists can't just put their liquid bomb components in time release capsules (like used in medications) and swollow them, (alot of them)
or worse yet, put the capsules in 30 bottles of water, toss them in 30 suitcases, buy 30 different plane tickets all on different planes, check their luggage on each plane, and walk out of the terminal to do the same thing to anothe airport

security id for keeping average joe user out, real threats will always find a way if they are determined enough to do so
the fact that we have not been attacked in the past few years proves, to me at least, that these "terrorists" that everyone is talking about are nothing more than a government fiscade used to strip us of our freedoms, rights, and liberties

havent lost any of those personally?
go try to climb the statue of liberty
ironicly the highest you can now ascend is to her feet, grauvel at your will...

[edit on 13-8-2006 by wondernut]

Interesting article about this terrorist plot turned up at the Wayne Madsen Report.
www.waynemadsenreport.com...

This story certainly seems to explain a lot of what might be going on behind the scenes.

Aug. 11, 2006 -- According to knowledgeable sources in the UK and other
countries, the Tony Blair government, under siege by a Labor Party
revolt, cleverly cooked up a new "terror" scare to avert the public's
eyes away from Blair's increasing political woes. British law
enforcement; neo-con and intelligence operatives in the United States,
Israel, and Britain; and Rupert Murdoch's global media empire cooked up
the terrorist plot, liberally borrowing from the failed 1995 "Oplan
Bojinka" plot by Pakistan- and Philippines-based terrorist Ramzi Ahmad
Yousef to crash 11 trans-Pacific airliners bound from Asia to the United
States. In the latest plot, it is reported that liquid bombs were to be
detonated on 10 trans-Atlantic planes outbound from Britain to the
United States.

British and American authorities permitted a man with a liquid bomb to
board a U.S.-bound flight in Heathrow on Aug. 6 -- the pilot foiled
secret UK-US attempt to hype an incident en route to or at Boston Logan.

The London terror plan was "known" last Sunday by British and American
authorities, according to the Indian press. American Airlines flight 109
from London Heathrow to Boston boarded a family of five, however, after
the plane left Heathrow authorities determined that the father appeared
on a British suspect list drawn up after the 7/7 London transit attacks.
At first, the pilot was instructed to fly all the way to Boston where
U.S. authorities could claim credit for apprehending the suspect.
However, the pilot, fearing for the safety of his passengers and crew,
refused and quickly returned to Heathrow without informing the
passengers. Once on the ground, it was discovered that the male had in
his carry-on baggage the type of combination liquid explosive and
electronic device now being hyped by the British and American media.

British sources report that the reason for the delay in informing the
airlines and traveling public about the liquid bomb on the American
flight was to maximize the beneficial political impact for Blair and
George W. Bush, both plummeting in the polls from the situations in Iraq
and Lebanon.

Earlier this week, two employees of Murdoch's London tabloid, News of
the World, were charged with hacking into the voice and text cell phone
messages of three members of the staff of Clarence House, the residence
of Princes Charles, William, and Harry. One of those charged with the
wiretapping was Clive Goodman, the Royals editor of the News of the
World. The same paper earlier tried to politically damage two anti-Iraq
war British politicians -- Scottish Socialist Tommy Sheridan and Respect
Party MP George Galloway. The paper charges that Sheridan was unfaithful
to his wife by going to swinger's clubs. He won a quarter million dollar
lawsuit against the paper. Galloway was confronted by Mazher Mahmood, an
individual who uses the moniker "Fake Sheik," who tried unsuccessfully
to get Galloway to accept cash and make anti-Semitic remarks. In fact,
Mahmood was and continues to be a reporter for News of the World, his
continued employment approved by Murdoch. Goodman has merely been
suspended by Murdoch but he has not been fired.

Murdoch uncovered Prince Charles-Gordon Brown plot to oust Blair. Phony
terror plan cooked up to derail political coup plans.

However, what prompted Murdoch and Blair to hype a new global "terror"
threat was what Murdoch learned from eavesdropping on the phone calls of
Prince Charles' staff at the future king's office, home, and limousine.
The eavesdropping revealed that Charles was working with Chancellor of
the Exchequer Gordon Brown, who is to the left of Blair, to conduct the
same type of political maneuver that John Major used to oust Margaret
Thatcher from office. London's left-wing Mayor, Ken Livingston, was also
in on the Charles-Brown plan and it was expected that in return for his
support, Livingston would get a senior position in a Brown cabinet -- a
development that sent shock waves through the neo-con circles in London,
Washington, and Jerusalem, including British Home Secretary John Reid
and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. The Charles-Brown plan
was briefed by Blair to Bush during the former's recent visit to
Washington.

Airline terror plot cooked up by Blair, Bush, and Murdoch to save Tony's
political ass.

Blair told Bush that a Brown government would move to withdraw British
troops from Iraq, break the "special relationship" with the Bush White
House, and move closer to the European Union and the United Nations.

The Israeli attack on Lebanon created a rift within Blair's Cabinet with
some former Blair loyalists signaling their support for the political
coup against Blair. As a result, a suspect passenger was permitted to
board an American aircraft at Heathrow with a liquid bomb to lay the
groundwork for the media and travel hysteria five days later.

The wiretapping of Charles' messages also indicated that he has weighed
in with various European royal families to discourage them from inviting
Bush on state visits to their nations. This, reportedly upset the Bush
and Blair regimes, who were working together to improve Bush's image in
Europe. The White House's displeasure with the monarchies in Spain,
Belgium, Sweden, Luxembourg, and Norway are a direct result of the
Murdoch eavesdropping on Charles' staff.

Murdoch-Bush-Blair perception management hoax: Be afraid, be very afraid.

Not surprisingly, after Galloway tore into a Sky News reporter on a
recent televised interview, The Sun, a Murdoch paper, is now reporting
that one of the 24 British aircraft liquid bomber suspects now under
arrest, Waheed Zaman, met with Galloway "many times." The paper quotes
the sister of the suspect. A Galloway spokesman denies that Galloway
knows the suspect. What is suspect is the Murdoch media empire that
makes up news and commits illegal acts to provide cover for the false
flag operations being conducted by Britain, the U.S., and Israel.

Pakistan's Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) agency has helped provide
the cover story for the alleged liquid bombers. Working with British and
U.S. intelligence, the ISI says it broke up the plot after arresting
terrorist suspects in Lahore and Karachi. However, the ISI claims that
the men were affiliated with the Kashmiri terrorist group
Lashkar-e-Toiba, a group that is run and funded by the ISI itself.

Originally posted by BaastetNoir

Originally posted by pepsi78

I bet you do .. study some hsitory and you'll see the Islamic terrorism as existed for longer than you or I have been on thei Planet... but keep thinking its just a plot.

History my dear history, project northwoods

, it's been documented a long time ago.

Really? and does that project explains decades of suicide bombinngs, airplain highjackings, pshycotic attempts of world domination... I don't think so.

If you believe that this is all propaganda and the goverment makes it all up, why don't you just move to the middle East and join them to fight the evil America ?
The same evil America that gave your Pepsi ... lol

so you think fightin is the answer, man # you, its like you come on here, and dnt even want to hear other peoples arguments, u just come on with ur snotty sarcastic remarks n fink were gona believe you and say 'oh alrite, im awful sorry, BaastetNoir is right, were wrong, end of.' well, it aint gonna happen (haha sarcasm hypocrit)

and another thing, look below your name... (Brainwashed By G.W. Bush) wtfs that all about? your admitting that you've been brainwashed by the american government and bush to believe that 9/11 was actually real and done by ''islamic fascists'' ... ?

[edit on 13-8-2006 by mckenny2k4]

Oh, it would of been nice if we didn't bring religion into this

John Reid has been accused of using the terrorist plot to launch a "power grab" for when Blair goes and for using "spin". Some ministers don't like the fact he is (apparently) using "bad news" for political gain.

BRAINWASHING 101

It must be true, my government says so.

Oh, it would of been nice if we didn't bring religion into this

Knews where your comming from but, it is always at the root of any problem religion, they should ban it all together, all religions should be banned, Yeah I would have a happier life then.

what a load of tosh. If religion wasn't around we'd simply fight over something else (colour of skin, political ideology, sleeping with another mans wife etc), and there would be a lot more lawlessness. I wouldn't want to live in a world witout religion.

Originally posted by Peyres
what a load of tosh. If religion wasn't around we'd simply fight over something else (colour of skin, political ideology, sleeping with another mans wife etc), and there would be a lot more lawlessness. I wouldn't want to live in a world witout religion.

I do agree to an extent- ethnic clensing, resources, land, just a natural hatred of another could easily and has created wars.

Religion does promise an after life and serving God is your first class ticket to paradise. Without that ideology i'm sure there would be a decrease in attacks such as the current terror attacks- only to be replaced by another threat of somekind.

what a load of tosh. If religion wasn't around we'd simply fight over something else (colour of skin, political ideology, sleeping with another mans wife etc), and there would be a lot more lawlessness. I wouldn't want to live in a world witout religion

You are entitled to your own opinion as am I, From what I have read over the past couple of pages on this thread, blamin one religion over another, that is a load of tosh in my opinion, I stck with my opinion you can stick with yours....

Peace

Originally posted by AscendedMaster
The fact is BaastaNoir, is that you have no proof muslims want to dominate the world, cuz there is no proof. You want proof the globalist are trying to dominate the world?

I have one single piece of proof writen by a Holy Man named Mohamed... it's called the Quran. And honestly I really don't care if you believe it or not. The Iranian Pshycotic nut sure belives it.

Most ppl thought Hitler was just a Big Mouth nut untill he went for his own world domination attempt. The same will happen with these days situation.

And you can scream "govrment conspiracy" all you wnat..it won't change anything.

BN,

Everything you say can and does apply to this govenrment also. Are you saying there's a possibility now?

Originally posted by pepsi78
Terrorism is not a religion or a group, you trying to give flavor to terrorism, terrorism can be white, black, arabic and so on.

As I said before .. the source of MAJOR WORLD terrorism in the last (ate laest) 40 years is Islamic. You can point the finger to whomever else you want.. won't make a difference. ISLAM IS THE SOURCE OF TODAY's TERRORISM.. whether you like it or not.

America is not evil , the white house is not america, stop asociating policy with life stile, it's not culture that is the problem, the problem would be US foreign policy, and belive me , it's afecting the world, it's not related to the people of USA or their culture.

Once again... the white House in this case G.W. Bush was an infant when the problems casue by ISLAM started... why do you ignore all the Islamic crimes commicted against AMerica and many other countries in the World vbefore G.W.Bush was President?

That is right, so no one is doing it, it's your imagination of arabs runing around with plastic knifes inside the plane.

My imagination ?? Man, now I'm starting to pitty you ... Tell that to the fmailies of all those who died not only on 9/11 but also in the many many airplain highjackings during the 80's... I bet their head were blown off by my imagination as well, right ?
I seriosuly hope my imaginatiuon never attacks a plain you are travelling in.

I could care less what the Bible says, I am not a Christians and as far as I know there were no Christians hijacking planes from the 70's to the 80's,

No but can you remember the cusades?

The crusades happened in this century ??? WOW... the things I learn...

Yeah I DO "remember" the Crusades... and I also "remember" that crusaders helped kciking Mulems out of my country, when invaded it.

Can you remember the US giving chimical weapons to saddam?
Can you remember the US giving weapons to binladen and to the talibans?
Hmm suporting the terrorists?

Yeah ... i do .. and updating China's missil system.... what I don't remember is G.W. Bush doing all that ??? So basically he is just taking the # that everyone else did before him.

I am a cristian, but no matter what I am, I always tend to be fair and to judge things correctly.

Than put the blame where it belongs.... Your Jesus wnet ot the cross to give you some courage not to see you coward out under pressure.

We dont need to bomb embassies , that is small stuff, we the cristians got nukes, we bombed the hell out of japan?(with nuclear weapons after the war was over) We bombed the hell out of iraq, afganistan.
we killed killed killed and over killed inocent people.

Where those attacks donne just for the fun of it ? Why did those attacks happened ? and by the way .. I didn't kill anyone... just like I owned no slaves.. and I didn't kill any indians or witches... don't wrapp yourself in that "self-pitty" blanket... it's not worth it... there are times in life when it's either your or the other side... Jesus knew that as well... You should learn from him.

Some of us thik different on that mater, remember? inside job.

Of course you do ... because you must suffer of some type of Stockholm Syndrome ... identifying with the agressor in order to sel-perserve???

I mean, it does happen to soem ppl under situations of greta stress... It does seem it has happened to MANY ppl around the world and in the US after 9/11... a growing number of Stockholm Syndrome patients. and I am in no way mocking you.

and there are no Christians kidnapping Israeli soldiers and blowing a country for lack of better things to do.

Well, let's see why all of this hapend.
let's take a look at Resolution 317 which has not been implemented by israel not even till this day.
You want to know why all of this hapend?
here you go.
Resolution"317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
This resolution is old realy old.

there is a diference between an abudected person and a prisioner of war.
and do you really want to talk about kidnappings ..?? that's exactly what started the rpesent Middle Eats situation... because the Lebanese kidnapeed Israeli soldiers
during a time where they were all suppose to be in Peace

Okay let's put it in other words, you go to the police, you tell them that some one has kidnaped your wife and son , the police then says well we told him to give your family back but what can we do, our hands are tied, and you wait and wait while you comunicate with your kidnaper for months"in the case of israel is years"
and you wait and you wait and wait until your frustration reaches proportions, you finaly decide to take matters in to your own hands.
In the case you are lebanon, the police is the UN and the kidnaper is israel.

WHAT ???? Are you sure you are a Christians...? you have the same twisted thinking Islamic terrorists do.

To ceck that I'm not BSing you ceck the resolution 317
In it's previos incursion in to lebanon israel has kidnaped people off the street and to this day they have refused to give them back.
This hapend simply as a last resort, there was no other way, they have asked for them back years and years with no result, the UN has asked for their return also years and years.
They captured the soldiers so they can make a swap, because there was no other way, israel was refusing to folow the law.
I guess the news does not tell you that does it

Right..of course ... the Evile Jews at work again... truly truly sad... You don't happent ot believ that Israel is the "false" Jews and that the "True" Jews are the white america, do you ??? casue it sure its starting to look that way.

No it's not, bolth text from the bible and from the coran can be leading to conflict, the problem is that you dont see what is hapening, youre full of anger, and a one sided view, a blind man would see this.

Oh, let me get this right ... If you defende islamic terrorists at the same time they are killing the people your Bible says was chosen by your God you're a smart persona dnfilled with love, but if I talk against the Islamic genocide going on for many yearas... than I'm filled with anger and blind... LOL ... .. you're a baptist aren't you ? you have to be.

Well if beeing enlightened and filled with love like you are is haveing the twisted thinking you suffer of... than I arther stay "filled with anger and blkind" .. yep .. there's is nothing appelaing to me in your sife of "righteousness"... Jesus must be turning in his grave.. figure of speach)

Originally posted by dgtempe
BN,

Everything you say can and does apply to this govenrment also. Are you saying there's a possibility now?

nope... i don't believ any goverment is directly involved in the Islamic madeness.... past goverments may be invilved becuase they were dumb enough to sign "agreements " with them.. and this goverment and today's ppl are paying the price for year and years for bull crap and false agreemnets that are spet on the moment they are signed.

And note .. that Is say plenty of times Islamic madness , I don't say arab madness... beeing an Arab doesn't mean you are Islamic... but the great majority of Islamics are Arabs... the problem is the Islamic Religion, and while thi religion exists and is thought, there won't be any kind of Peace not even close.

Yeah ... i do .. and updating China's missil system.... what I don't remember is G.W. Bush doing all that ??? So basically he is just taking the # that everyone else did before him.

Well it runs in the family, his dady did , his dady helped sadam stay in power.

Than put the blame where it belongs.... Your Jesus wnet ot the cross to give you some courage not to see you coward out under pressure.

Nope , jesus didint go on the cross just for me, when he went on the cross he went for every one, to think he went just for me that would be selfish, or he went just for jewish or white would also be selfish, people that use him today to justify what they are doing are the real dirty pupetiers, bush seems to do it in his name endles times.


Where those attacks donne just for the fun of it ?

Nuking someone after the war is over.
And yes invading iraq so sadam wont nuke us the imaginary musroom cloud be paranoid it's coming
Boming afganistan's tribal population, they dont even know how to drive a car and you want them to crash planes in to the buildings, your hilarius, thoulsads of old men woman and children killed due to bomings, operation infinite justice.
What is even more funny is that a few days erlyer the talibans were in W DC negociating with bush for a pipe line, when they said no, bush atacked.

there is a diference between an abudected person and a prisioner of war.

Hmm prisoners of war ? what war the previos one? where israel invaded lebanon?
ohh that unjust war, where they kidnaped people off the street?

and do you really want to talk about kidnappings ..?? that's exactly what started the rpesent Middle Eats situation... because the Lebanese kidnapeed Israeli soldiers
during a time where they were all suppose to be in Peace

No this is what started it. "Resolution"317"
The failure of israel to comply with the law after years and years of intense beging from lebanon and from the united nations.
When some one refuses go by law there is no other solution.
If israel would of complied with Resolution 317 this would of not hapend, no reason , no hesbolah,armed forces, no hesbolah armed forces no problem, no problems=peace.
But no, israel has decided to keep people that they took years ago, ignoring the UN , ignoring lebanons peade to give them back, and you want me to say israel is the victim?

WHAT ???? Are you sure you are a Christians...? you have the same twisted thinking Islamic terrorists do.

I am sure I am a cristian, and you will find many other cristians just like me, and to say your responce to my quoting is poor with out any cover especialy when you talk about the current situation in the middle east.
The root cause of the problem is Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".

And those prisoners of war that you talk about were captured in this war, let's see what was that war about.

Here is your passed just war that was previos recorded in lebanon

Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".

well there is your justice, prisoners captured in what you call justified war.
Why did israel capture them, why did israel refuse to give them back???????
why why why, we would not see this at the curent time if israel would of just gave the lebanese back
Yes mhhhhmmm blame the arabs, they did it.

Right..of course ... the Evile Jews at work again... truly truly sad...

You got your explenation above , covered by the law, what do you cover it with?

Jesus must be turning in his grave..

figure of speach)

In his grave? this is moking and insulting, I guess you have no idea of cristianity.
I cant comment on the rest of your post, it's just not worth it.




[edit on 13-8-2006 by pepsi78]

go to the "Menwith Hill Site" and read about this little bit that hardly noone know's. But if it has been mentioned under any subject on ATS I must have missed it...