Can we agree that Bush was right? ...Finally?

Originally posted by Damocles

Originally posted by Tasketo

Really? Can you honestly say that? Or is it just all coincidence that the best people Bush could find for his administration just so happen to have ties to the oil industry?

am i the only one that remembers what dick cheney did before he went to work at haliburton?

ill remind you...he when by "the Hon Richard Cheyey, secretary of defense" when George the first was pres.

yeah i can see where taht wouldnt make him qualified for public office....

I didnt say he wasnt qualified. Serving under Bush's father who also had oil ties makes him qualified.

Cheney went to Washington in 1969 to serve as special assistant to Donald Rumsfeld (President George W. Bush's secretary of defense) in the Office of Economic Opportunity in the Nixon administration. Keep in mind this is shortly after we put the Iraqi Ba'ath party into power. Hmm... I hope this "Economic Opportunity" didnt have to do with oil.

In 1976 he served in the House of Representatives, and was reelected five times.

Cheney served as President George H.W. Bush's defense secretary and commanded the Pentagon during the Persian Gulf War.

From 1995 until 2000, Cheney served as CEO of Halliburton Co., a Texas construction and engineering outfit that services oil companies. He left the company to head the vice presidential selection committee. The group vetted several possibilities, but he himself emerged as Bush's top choice.

So its still a conflict of interest no matter how you look at it, qualified or not. Im just saying it cant all be coincidence. President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top administration connections to oil and gas companies. And so did George H.W. Bush, I dont know why you even brung him up.


[edit on 14-2-2006 by Tasketo]

Again, I'm surprised .... America has been using oil for what ???150 year ?? 100? 50??... Addicted to Oil is right ! For decades America is one of the biggest users of oil, oil hsa been one of the biggest lobys in Whashington since politicians learned how to "politicize"... but all the sudden the people woke up from a deep coma of years and relaized ... " Oh look ...Bush has connections with oil ?" ... WOW... what a surpise !!

My question is, In Washington... WHO DOESNT HAVE A CONNECTION with Oil ?? And by the way ?? What was Al gor doing in Saudi Arabia ... selling his oil ??

Seriously ... lets not be hy[icrits ... EVERYONE single one of us ... ahs a CONNECTION with OIL... and we ALL feed into it ... So do'nt point your finger to Bush, as if you actually ride a bike to work every morning

So, if that's the way it always was, that makes it alright then? I guess it's OK to carry on as usual and start wars over others resources?
Simplistic I know, but I found your rational simplistic as well.
So go ahead and me.

The world needs a big tub of degreaser, to clean up this oily mess.
Legitimizing it as business as usual doesn't solve the problem.

(I ride a bike to and from work by the way)

Originally posted by crmanager

Bush was right. Freedom vs. Evil.

Let me translate for you Bush = corporations vs. Evil = foreign policied society

...so no he is not right

Bush was right for going into Iraq for at least one reason....

Can you imagine what would be occuring in middle east right now if Iran was chest beating about nukes? Do you think Saddam would put up with it? He would have used the WMD's that we now cannot find on Iran in a heartbeat. He did it once, why not do it again?

Politics is what I refer to as 'the good ole boy network". Everyone has a tie to someone, and everyone has something on everyone, and those who can keep a secret will rise to the top. In the last 30 years, you have had an actor, a peanut farmer, ex CIA head, a philanderous governor and a failed business man as president. These people were chosen for a reason, a reason that most of us will never know Politics is about making money and getting out before you are corrupted or indicted. Are we so diluded to think the president is like Geena Davis?

Who do any of you detractors feel would tell the truth if put in office?

Theres more conspiracy theories being floated in this thread than are posters on ATS. What a joke. I totally agree with the thread starter. It didnt suprise me to see all the first posts were bush bashers. They just couldnt wait to start flaming. What a joke these people are.

Hundreds of thousands of muslims, (100% extremists) killing, burning and looting over a cartoon and they still blame bush. LOLOL

Train

These toadiers, kowtowers to Bush , What a joke they are!

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
I have one thing to say to you, "baaaaah baaaah baaaah, baaah!"
Brotherman, you are one brainwashed individual. Come toward the light....
[edit on 12-2-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

So how's Bragg?

I served 4 years in the 82nd Abn. Haven't been there since 1978.

I always have a yearning to go to the 82nd abn birthday parade on the 4th of july(born on the 4th of july) that's what the AA is about "All American" division.

Care to add anything worthwhile, or do you still brag about your tour for attention?

It seems to me that the "right" attempt resolution while the "left"point fingers. I mean, I understand it is easier to jump on a bandwagon rather than attmept to defend your beliefs about your government.

Care to add anything worthwhile, or do you still brag about your tour for attention?

I posted the quip about the 82nd abn cause onegodjesus said 'So how's bragg? '

Meaning Ft Bragg where the 82nd is posted.



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[edit on 2/14/2006 by bodebliss]

"come into the light "...they say ..." you have been brainwashed "..they say ... yet these are the same ppl who claim Islam is a religion of Peace...

I'm sorry ...its not PEACE... its PIECES !

And yes Bush has been right about several things, one of them Iraq. One day you will thankhim, even if you loose your voice after that.

Rosevelt was hated too, but he was the one who put the final nail on the Nazi's coffin.... Nazi's, Islamic Terrorists, KKK, Black Panthers...AAAALLLL the same "cultures of racial hate" under different names.

And I am really amazed that the "free thinkers, enlightned minds" of the "True" Liberalistic America can't see that ... I guess the light shines so bright its BLINDING them

And I am really amazed that the "free thinkers, enlightned minds" of the "True" Liberalistic America can't see that ... I guess the light shines so bright its BLINDING them

I only wish that were true!

The perpetrater of the American-Nazi alliance is in the White House, right now.

George W. Bush, The Neocons, & The Nazis: Ties That Bind

Originally posted by Nakash
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Chavez :

1)Was elected on a landslide (over 60% of the vote). The election was verified by the UN and Carter institute, as well as the media which is quite reactionary to his policies.

Prbably in the first elections he was freely chosen, but the elections afterwards is something different.

I have talked to engineers from Venezuela and most of the time they are scared #less when we make jokes to them online about Chavez.

If Chavez was so "fair" why is it that we saw in these same forums as an older woman, who used to be a Chavista, but changed her mind and was saying this as a reporter was filming her, she was approached by thugs from Chavez government and taken away to another building. As the reporter asked what they were going to do with the woman one of Chavez's thugs told the reporter not to get involved in the politics of the country.

Another question, why is it that there are more people in jail now in Venezuela?

and your statement that things are going better in Venezuela is way off the mark. Here is an image, and a link with the statistics of Venezuela and how poverty is going up once again even with Chavez in power.



excerpted from.
www.vcrisis.com.../200601180629

Things are not so peachy in Venezuela like you and others would like to claim. Venezuela is becoming more and more like Cuba. Chavez has copied eveything that castro did after the "revolucion" down to a t.

There are now neighborhood watch in each neighborhood in Venezuela to keep an eye on anyone that is against Chavez. it is the same set up that you find in Cuba.

Anyways, let's go back to the topic in this thread please, thanks...

Originally posted by bodebliss

I only wish that were true!

The perpetrater of the American-Nazi alliance is in the White House, right now.

George W. Bush, The Neocons, & The Nazis: Ties That Bind

American-Nazi alliance?....

you might wish that to be true, but it is not.

Hitler was a nationalist socialist. Nazism had more similarities to socialism than to a democracy. Hitler hated democracies and any form of government which gave any sort of power to the minorities. Hitler hated minorities, in the U.S. minorities are part of the government, so any attempt to link the U.S. government to "Nazism" is but a joke and an understatement on the ignorance some people display just so they can bash the U.S. government.

Next time you try to make such bold statements read up some facts please, thanks.

[edit on 14-2-2006 by Muaddib]

American-Nazi alliance?....

you might wish that to be true but it is not.

Hitler was a nationalist socialist. Nazism had more similarities to socialism than to a democracy. Hitler hated democracies and any form of government which gave any sort of power to the minorities.

Next time you try to make such bold statements read up some facts please, thanks.

Read the site listed 700 pages of proof of Bush involvement.

Don't be ignorant, long.

It could hurt.

George W. Bush, The Neocons, & The Nazis: Ties That Bind








[edit on 2/14/2006 by bodebliss]

You are trying to sell a cd on ATS?.....


You should know better than that....

Ignorance seems to be your middle name bode, you don't even seem to know the rules of ATS.

Oh btw, i guess Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell are just white people in disguise bode?....and one more thing, we have covered in these forums the supposed connection of the presiden'ts grandfather with a nazi and it was easily debunked.

[edit on 14-2-2006 by Muaddib]

You are trying to sell a cd on ATS?.....


You should know better than that....

Ignorance seems to be your middle name bode, you don't even seem to know the rules of ATS.

First of all that's not my site.

All the cd content is on the site.

Second you are slandering me w/o any evidence. Which shows your true character. You are the ignorant one.

You just don't like the fact that there are mountains of evidence that your hero is a nazi sympathizer, if not a nazi.







[edit on 2/14/2006 by bodebliss]

Sig... File!

Originally posted by Muaddib
American-Nazi alliance?....

This is not an entirely unfounded allegation...

Wikipedia Article on Operation Paperclip

ATS Articles Mentioning Operation Paperclip

There is some compelling evidence to suggest that the UFO phenomenon may be related to the exploitation of captured German technology after (and perhaps even during) WWII.

While that isn't the same thing as embracing Nazi ideology, it's still worth considering.

As for President Bush being behind it all, that would be quite a trick, considering he was born on July 6, 1946, making him a bit young to be brokering deals with the remnants of the Third Reich.

Originally posted by bodebliss

First of all that's not my site.

We can't never be certain of that can we?

Originally posted by bodebliss
All the cd content is on the site.

If you believe everything you find on the internet, it's your loss.

Originally posted by bodebliss
Second you are slandering me w/o any evidence. Which shows your true character. You are the ignorant one.

So I am slandering you for showing your obvious ignorance on Nazism and the difference with the U.S. Republic?....
Could you please show us how many minorities were in power in Germany when Hitler was in power?... I am pretty sure you won't find any.

Originally posted by bodebliss
You just don't like the fact that there are mountains of evidence that your hero is a nazi sympathizer, if not a nazi.

First of all, president Bush is not my hero. Second of all what you are claiming to be evidence is nothing but crappy unfounded claims from someone who obviously is infatuated with bashing the U.S. government. if you want to believe that, it is your loss.

[edit on 14-2-2006 by Muaddib]