The reason I believe in God is because I believe that I am created by Him and that He is a loving God. I want to be with Him one day. Spamandham, I must say that I thought about your answer as to why you don't believe and I wonder. Is there any reason why life is even worth living? When you die, what will happen with your soul (life essence etc.)?

Fromabove

Originally posted by saint4God
I see, but is this not a different trinity?

In my opinion the Hindu trinity is simply using different labels to describe the same concepts.

I'd be happy to continue discussing this in a U2U since I think we're taking this thread a bit off topic.

Originally posted by Fromabove
Is there any reason why life is even worth living?

Sure, but they are my reasons, not someone else's. Being the master of your own purpose is not a burden.

Originally posted by Fromabove
When you die, what will happen with your soul (life essence etc.)?

I have no reason to believe any aspect of myself with survive my death, other than the matter I am composed of.

Originally posted by AkashicWanderer

Originally posted by saint4God
I see, but is this not a different trinity?

In my opinion the Hindu trinity is simply using different labels to describe the same concepts.

I'd be happy to continue discussing this in a U2U since I think we're taking this thread a bit off topic.

actually its not really off topic att all.......as we are still discussing god and how maybe the bible is not the end all be all....

the vedic (hindu) trinity is this.....
the holy ghost= the atman or the origin
the father= brahmin or physical creator
the son= would be any one of many hindu gods that are brahmin incarnate like shiva, vishnu ,or raja(krsnas eternal escort)........krsna is also another hindu god but he is believed to be closest to brahmin as possible.....

i believe the god that speaks to the hebrews in the old test is just a diety(brahmin incarnate)........he tells the hebrews not to worship "other gods"
eluding that there are other gods ....he would only say this if he was a diety....the brahmin or the atman would not wory of these other gods as he would relize he controls them...in the gita krsna tells arjuna that even if a man prays to other gods they are still praying to him ...also the brahmin does not directly involve himself directly with us because that would interfere with our freewill....

Originally posted by AkashicWanderer
In my opinion the Hindu trinity is simply using different labels to describe the same concepts.

I'd be happy to continue discussing this in a U2U since I think we're taking this thread a bit off topic.

Thanks, and you're right. I appreciate your help in keeping focused.

Originally posted by spamandham

Originally posted by Fromabove
Is there any reason why life is even worth living?

Sure, but they are my reasons, not someone else's. Being the master of your own purpose is not a burden.

Originally posted by Fromabove
When you die, what will happen with your soul (life essence etc.)?

I have no reason to believe any aspect of myself with survive my death, other than the matter I am composed of.

perfect example of how you don't need an external force for security.

my personal belief is that most religious people use religion as a security blanket. something to rid them of insecurity and doubt.

you don't need a tree, all you need is an aluminum pole!

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created....



Fromabove

A couple things about the bible. The old testament was written by the jews while in exile in babylonia. Most of the stories of the old testament were old tales from previous civialaztions that the jews heard and wrote down. Which is the torah or old testament. The new testament was written after Jesus was killed. So actually it wasnt the word of god at all just people writing tales they thought had god's hand in the stories.

Originally posted by Fromabove


Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created....



Fromabove

in the beginning man couldn't figure out something and created god to explain it...

Originally posted by PsychoSteve85
A couple things about the bible. The old testament was written by the jews while in exile in babylonia. Most of the stories of the old testament were old tales from previous civialaztions that the jews heard and wrote down. Which is the torah or old testament. The new testament was written after Jesus was killed. So actually it wasnt the word of god at all just people writing tales they thought had god's hand in the stories.

If ever anyone questions thebiblesucks.com, I'd encourgage them to do their own research by reading the Book themselves, comparing it with historical information, and contemplating the instructions given in the Book to see if it is indeed what God wants of us. Then again, you don't have to depend solely on the Book, He's alive now so you can ask Him.

[edit on 28-12-2005 by saint4God]

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
in the beginning man couldn't figure out something and created god to explain it...

That's pretty deep. It's a wonder you haven't written your own holy book.

Originally posted by saint4God

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
in the beginning man couldn't figure out something and created god to explain it...

That's pretty deep. It's a wonder you haven't written your own holy book.

BLATENT FLAME!!!

its my personal belief that deification comes through either ignorance or insecurity. you don't need to attack me in sarcastic fashion, attack the argument not the person.

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
BLATENT FLAME!!!

its my personal belief that deification comes through either ignorance or insecurity. you don't need to attack me in sarcastic fashion, attack the argument not the person.

I see, and re-writing the Book I consider sacred is not an attack? I apologize that I've personally offended, I didn't mean any attack on your beliefs. Allow me to rephrase. You've made a statement saying that "In the beginning" with your own variant history written over what I have written here. Would you care to expand on how you arrived at this conclusion or at least substaniate in some way this claim which assaults my beliefs?

Do you think god, as loving as he is, would let a human take advantage of his bible? our way of life?! Never! he loves all of us too much to do that. The men that wrote the bible were given a blessing by god to do it! and thats that, if you have never read the bible then you wouldnt know! so pleae dont judge if you havent analyzed it fully, and most of you havent read it so you can. God granted those people to write it and in my opinion everything i read makes sense and always is a good way to live so a man could never be smart enough to write something so helpful like that.


If men could write a religion they would want whatever they want and not whats right sometimes, but in the bible nothing it says to do in your life doesnt sound "not right'" or "wierd"

Do not judge a book by its cover!

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul

Originally posted by Fromabove


Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created....



Fromabove

in the beginning man couldn't figure out something and created god to explain it...

Really!? how culd they create something so powerful and loving to explain it? for we do ot have that power and if they created a god to figure out'"something"the how did that god figure it out if they were operating it? and couldnt figure out what exactly? all that was written!? wayy to deep for a man in the "beginning"to understand. Remember in the begining the bible wasnt there to write down about the god they "Created" the bible was written later by god ((well nt exactly from god but he did give them what to write down)) on how he created us. Not how we created him

Originally posted by babiixxpimpette
... in my opinion everything i read makes sense and always is a good way to live ...

Have you actually read it - I mean, all of it?

Do you consider slavery and constant warfare to be good ways to live? What about polygamy and child sacrifice? These are depicted in a positive light in the Bible.

A question that I've wondered about for a while concerning this subject:

why haven't any more writings been canonized? I mean, surely there are good and pious men who sincerely believe that their message has been inspired by G-d that have lived in more recent years. I don't think most people who strongly believe in the Bible would agree that G-d just quit talking to us somewhere in the 4th century. Do they?

actually according to vedic writing we are presently in a life cycle that is with out god.....that could be why no ones talking to god......but that cycle will only last for so long.......

Originally posted by spamandham
Do you consider slavery and constant warfare to be good ways to live? What about polygamy and child sacrifice? These are depicted in a positive light in the Bible.

Actually not. To say it is good because it is mentioned is missing the point of the Old Testament entirely. There are other words that go around what happens with slavery, warfare, polygamy and child sacrifices, but it takes more than a sentence to discern them. It begs me to ask this question of you:

Originally posted by spamandhamHave you actually read it - I mean, all of it?

You've said before the answer is yes, but the more important question is whether or not it is understood.

[edit on 4-1-2006 by saint4God]

Originally posted by Al Davison
why haven't any more writings been canonized? I mean, surely there are good and pious men who sincerely believe that their message has been inspired by G-d that have lived in more recent years. I don't think most people who strongly believe in the Bible would agree that G-d just quit talking to us somewhere in the 4th century. Do they?

I think a lot of what followed was repetitious. As in the original canon, when there wasn't more to be added, it wasn't included. I guess I could write down my exchanges with God, but anything that doesn't apply specifically to me is already in there. He's consistent, which makes it a whole lot easier to follow Him than if He were changing how I should think and act daily. It's a lesson I'm constantly learning.

[edit on 4-1-2006 by saint4God]