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Originally posted by violet
One of those stooge videos showed the same Oriental girl in the pool and also in another episode, where he floated up and she was saying how amazng it was. So this is two seperate events that show they're being staged.
Originally posted by violet
For the Walk On Water scene:
I think there was a thin transparent walkway - or bridge, that zig-zags about an inch below the surface of the water.
Originally posted by TerminallyOdd
So how many more camera angle switches and cuts in the scene would it take for you to believe that just MAYBE there's something foul afoot with that walking on water scene?...and I hate to even call it foul because Criss Angel is a MAGICIAN.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
As he walked, the crowd got closer and there were about a half a dozen people with him in the pool, with one of them swimming under him.
How come those that got closer and closer didnt actually interact with the path he was walking? How come they didnt reach up and try to touch and grab him?
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
It wouldn't look the same because the obstructions under the water would prevent it from looking the same and you wouldn't have people all around him, with one or more swimming under him.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
How do you think Ric Ocasek performed the illusion of walking on water?
One more thing...
This is a Net forum. You will not find in here proof of anything.
Let that sink in.
What we have to work with is personal experience, eyewitness testimony, critical analysis, logical extrapolation, and perhaps also on occasion some intuitive insight - the last of which is not needed in this case.
Does this mean you are not going to pursue showing us an illusion of walking on water?
If you do, I want to see people around him or her and one or more people swimming underneath.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Originally posted by TerminallyOdd
So how many more camera angle switches and cuts in the scene would it take for you to believe that just MAYBE there's something foul afoot with that walking on water scene?...and I hate to even call it foul because Criss Angel is a MAGICIAN.
Yep...an illusionist that also has a Gift of Prana/Chi/Ki/Psychokinesis.
Hey...show us a video of someone other than Criss Angel who walks on water OUTSIDE, who is surrounded by people in the pool, and who does not look like he is walking on Plexiglas.
Originally posted by pavil
Paul Richard, why didn't Criss just float 6 inches above the water if he is really levitating? The are too many plausible answers out there for you to state definitively that he is levitating.
Originally posted by pavil
Where are the witnesses from the pool scene other than in his own video. In fact one of the girls is actually present in another trick I believe the building to building levitation. Just a coincidence to you I am sure, she couldn't possibly be part the the Mindfreak "crew"" right?
Originally posted by violet
She's a Groupie? Do you think he wants her?!
Originally posted by violet
These are staged events with pre-selected live audiences.
Originally posted by violet
I haven't seen the Ric Ocasek video.
Originally posted by violet
People are in the pool with him to agitate the water! If it was an empty pool, the water would be too still, and would allow for the walkway to be seen.
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
How come those that got closer and closer didnt actually interact with the path he was walking? How come they didnt reach up and try to touch and grab him?
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
One more thing...
This is a Net forum. You will not find in here proof of anything.
Let that sink in.
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
Oh i get your point, that doesnt mean you can provide a link to a vid to back up your claim that plexiglass is only invisible when near the surface. And failing that, why not just prove your point by making your own video of it?
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
Something interesting to note, you ask us to prove our side with video's testimony, explanations, etc. But when we ask for the same, you say "This is a net Forum, you will not find in here proof of anything."
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
When i get decent vid capture software, ill post it.
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
The purpose of the clip isnt to mimick CA's exact illusion, its to prove that others do it, its do-able with props.
Originally posted by InSpiteOf
Eyewitness86's main contention has been that no one else has replicated his feats using props, well others have, CA just takes it to the next level by using more props, video editing, hoping the viewers will assume what he wants them to.
Originally posted by eyewitness86
Unreal, just amazing. The deniers say " Just imagine.." a lot, don't they?
Just imagine that Criss paid off everyone at the hotel and in the pool to act like they did not see the props, right?
All those people were paid off and loyal to the death, right?
It staggers the sound mind to read peoples posts that have absolutely NOTHING to back them up, nothing at all.
To suppose that Criss pays off legions of people is b eyond siilly;
why do NONE of you deniers ever address that point?
WHY do you never comment on the ODDS that would be astronomical at least?
How come we NEVER hear from even ONE paid off pool person or employee or witness? Why is that?
Do these vacationers always remain loyal to some ' illusionist ' just because he asks them to?
If you look at the video closely, you can see Criss feet right at water level,
There are people swimming all over the event, under, around and thru.
At one point Criss has to stop while a rather rude observer swims within inches of the feat ( feet! ).
It really is amazing what the human mind will do to avoid new paradigms and realities.
Stubborn denial in that face of all of the evidence and common sense, THAT is the deniers creed.
The events that the deniers cannot prove a hoax simply fall into the category of ' paid off ' or ' props ' with NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to prove that assertion.
The ODDS say that it is silly and nonsensical to assume things LESS likley than the obvious truth.
We do NOT need to imagine, we have the film
and the LACK of any alternative possibilities,
Originally posted by eyewitness86
Hi PR!! The deniers are NOT going to tell us that the simple one foot levitations are behind the high levitations, they know that would sound totally illogical and stupid. They simply say " We do not knopw how he did it because he is an illusionist and illusionists are so clever that we can never see the props or figure out how an event could be done, after all, it's MAGIC!!" THAT is the extent of their ' imaginings ' insofar as the high levitations are concerned.
Originally posted by eyewitness86
They are asking us to believe that Criss is the only person in the world that would attempt the feats he does. They ask us to believe that props are invisible and untouchable and never alluded to or seen or witnessed. They ask for a lot for people so sure that there are props. Why are they sure? Because if they were not sure, then their entire support system and reality based processes would shatter and collapse like a Tower on 9-11...
Deniers are NOT equipped to handle the ramifications of a new paradigm and they will deny and obscure and ignore until they drop because if they were to admit that they are at wits end trying to figure out how he does these things, it would render them incapable of continuing in this realm. It is TOO MUCH for some people to accept the hard and plain facts, no matter how unsettling they may be. There are always going to be people among us who cling to sorry and unproven assumptions while they ignore the elephant in the room( Or the elephant that appears and disappears from a closed circle in front of many witnesses and in a parking lot with NO hidden trapdoors.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Arawn,
I realize that you have come late into this debate, but Criss Angel's minor levitation illusion has been covered a number of times before.
To reiterate...
A lot of what Criss Angel does is an illusion and a lot of what he does is real, which he said in his interview on FOX with John Gibson. He cleverly explains his minor levitation illusion but always avoids explaining how he does his high levitations. We all know about the Balducci levitation trick and the fake foot illusion. But neither you or any of the other Denier's have been able to satisfactorily explain how Criss Angel levitated 500 feet and over the Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas, how he levitated inside the Luxor Atrium (the largest atrium in the world), and how he flew around a Las Vegas golf course in broad daylight.
Please don't insult our intelligence by suggesting that his fake leg trick or invisible wires are behind his high levitations.
Thank you.