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Prophet Yahweh (Ramon Watkins) "UFO-caller" phenomenon in Las Vegas (index of threads)

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posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 09:36 AM
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Another possibility, although maybe a bit far fetch or rare...is that this guy is woking with the goverments anti-gravity vehicles which are able to play aroung in our atmosphere, as we understand this.

I also can almost believe that as an abducty no doubt the possibility of telepathic communications, but at such a far distance ? with teh help a a chip..haha




posted on Jun, 6 2005 @ 11:48 AM
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Voice Of The Heretic


Originally posted by Bougie
Another possibility, although maybe a bit far fetch or rare...is that this guy is woking with the goverments anti-gravity vehicles which are able to play aroung in our atmosphere, as we understand this.

Crazy as it sounds, I think the most likely explanation I have seen given so far is that PY has an associate who releases helium-filled mylar balloons when PY signals him during his "prayers"

The probable means PY is using for communication with the associate is a Push-To-Talk (PTT) cell phone. I have one. They're cool.

You can set up a call with another PTT cell phone, then simply push a single button to talk to the other phone. With the PTT cell phone's volume and ringer turned off, it makes an excellent surreptitious one-way communication tool.

It is my opinion that when PY “talks to himself”, he is also talking to an associate on the other end of a PTT call who is positioning and preparing for an optimal balloon release, and that, in the case of the KTNV-13 video, PY passed on the location of the “test” by PTT when the news crew told him where they were taking him.

The associate got the location from PY's phone call and set up just outside the park as PY talked up the news crew and went through his rain dance routine.

I've watched the KTNV news video several times, and the appearance of the UFO is consistent with a silver mylar balloon lit by the afternoon sun.

Its erratic motion can be explained by the turbulent and shifting thermal currents of the wind over Las Vegas.

The Windy City

The Las Vegas Valley is known for its unpredictable winds, which result from the fact that the valley is relatively flat, with an atmosphere that is subject to very complex and dramatic convection effects driven by intense sunlight, many different point heat sources and uneven solar heating due to varying landscape profiles -- from irrigated grass fields to huge housing developments to tall, energy-hungry casino towers to wide highways to the ubiquitous desert flora.

In the desert valley where I live -- which, though hundreds of miles away from Las Vegas, is still one of many desert valleys in Nevada -- I see these effects every day.

Nevada's desert valleys produce erratic, shifting winds.

These wind currents will tend to make a balloon released into them seem to race hither and yon, as if under erratic but intelligent control. The behavior of the “UFO” in the KTNV news video is quite consistent with what I see in the skies over my house on a regular basis.

It is my current working theory that PY witnessed this effect in the past, got an idea and concocted a story around it that he could use to make money.

As for videos produced by PY himself, I advise extreme skepticism, since videos made by him and his associates can be edited to make all sorts of spectacular things seem to happen.

Only independently-produced videos from relatively reliable sources such as KTNV or other reasonably disinterested parties should be used for evaluating PY's authenticity, in my opinion, and even then, I strongly advise skepticism as always.

Of course, I could be wrong about all this, and PY really may be summoning government or alien aircraft or spacecraft on command.

You decide.

The truth is out there.



posted on Jun, 7 2005 @ 10:53 AM
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so has nothing happened at all then? isn't hs website saying anyhing either?



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 07:10 AM
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Majic's quote"

" ve watched the KTNV news video several times, and the appearance of the UFO is consistent with a silver mylar balloon lit by the afternoon sun.

Its erratic motion can be explained by the turbulent and shifting thermal currents of the wind over Las Vegas. "



Majic.

I can believe that these things appear like the silver mylar balloon but their iratic movements?

I've watched those video's and I dare to say those do not look like wind movements. It really does seem like anti gravity, as the right angle and zig zag moves seem pretty interesting ...

Bougie



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 12:26 PM
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It seems that the Prophet is getting some major funding. Doesn't look like he is going away any time soon. I wonder who is backing him ... a movie studio maybe? (War of the Worlds premiers on the 29th of this month.) This is a copy of his newest newsletter. Notice the "new math" he uses.


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From: "Prophet Yahweh"
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:07 pm
Subject: Breaking UFO News: I Have Been Given $750,000!



Dear List,


You will not believe what has happened!


The most holy and wonderful YAHWEH has arranged for me to receive
$750,000 out of the clear blue sky!


YAHWEH has moved some one to have compassion on me and save me from
my utter desperation concerning YAHWEH business.


Do you have any idea of what this means?!


The deep part of this is that whoever is doing this has given us an
immediate payment of $5,000 and says that the rest of the money,
$749,995 will be give to me as quick as within a week!


If I did not know any better, the most merciful YAHWEH has moved
someone, with the ability to arrange to for us to receive the money,
to make sure we got it.


Maybe it was someone who knew that if they did so, I would take all
the money, donate it to YAHWEH, and use it to blow His Media-Only
summonings into a full scale international movement.


Tomorrow, I will start telling you the details.


But, it appears that I have been given a quarter million dollars!


And, what makes me believe it is that we already have the immediate
$5,000 payment.


So, if $5,000 can appear out of no where, why can't another $749,995
appear the same way?!


To the benevolent YAHWEH I say, I know that you know that you have
just financed the explosion of your presence and your truth into the
souls of all humanity.


And, I thank you for it.


Bless you oh YAHWEH!


Blessed be your holy and magnificent name.


And, to the person who made sure I got that money, I say, thank you,
and I will not let you down in this matter.


That money will be deposited into a non-profit tax exempt account
for the purpose of underwriting my Media-Only Summonings and
launching the most stunning feeding and anti-hunger operation ever
to surface in America.


Sincerely,


Prophet Yahweh



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 12:35 PM
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749,995 + 5,000= 754,995

not

749,995 + 5,000= 750,000

This guy must be expecting 4995 to just "drop out of the sky too. It's odd that someone "blessed" by "Yahweh" plus being a rich business man cant even add.

9890



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 06:05 PM
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Oye Veh, Listen to the tone of his latest newsletter. You can almost hear the maniacal laughter. (Copied verbatim. Emphasis is his, not mine.)
.....................................................................................
Dear Group,

You won't believe what this person said to me!

I could not believe my eyes when I read the person's words.

Here they are:

.....................................................................................

profit yaweh -

this is getting ridiculous and all about money.

this is bad for you.


.....................................................................................

When I read those words I just could not believe it because the person had attached the email when I said that when I get the money, I was donating it to charitable work and not one penny will go to me.

I can't believe what this person said.

Now, I really know what I am up against.

Wow!

Any way, this is my reply to the person:

....................................................................................

Hahahaha!

You hearing about my being blessed with three quartes of a million dollars may be ridiculous and bad for you, that sound like you really need to re-evaluate your thought process!

You may think that it is looking bad for me, but that does n't matter to me.

I makes me very happy to receive $750,000 that I will be donating to charity like I did.

Did you know that?

Doesn't sound like it.

How is that ridiculous?

How is that bad for me?

Wow!

Me deciding to give $750,000 to serving the needy and me not receiving a single penny is ridiculous and bad!

Hahahahaha!

Oh my goodness!!!!!!!

Wow! I am going to post this one to my group!

Oh my! Oh, my!

You have just made my day and showed me just how the public can be when they don't understand the truth!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Oh hahahahaha

OOOOOO WWWWWEEEEEEEEE!

My goodness!!!!!!

Save this person somebody!!!!!!

Oh hahahahah!!!!!!!!

I got to go this is absolutely unbelievable.

Sincerely,

PY

.....................................................................................



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 06:15 PM
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If you are still skeptical about this guy being certifiabe, this should remove all doubt. And this is supposedly just part 1. (Once again, copied verbatim)
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Dear Group,

Just for the record, one day, a few years ago, I heard the voice that calls itself YAHWEH tell me to go see a psychiatrist.

I said no way!

But, let it suffice to say, that as time went on, YAHWEH showed me that this is exactly what he wanted me to do, so I did as I was instructed.

So, I hesitantly went to the Department of Mental Health, in Los Angeles, and saw a psychologist and psychiatrist.

They asked me about the voice I hear that calls itself YAHWEH, how He lives on other planets, and travel around the universe in spaceships.

Then, I told him that spaceships and UFOs appear on my signal and I could prove it.

The psyche looked at me, probably stranger than he has ever looked at anyone before.

Boy, you should have seen the look on his face!

Then, he said something like: Listen closely to me. There is something wrong with you. You have a schizo disorder.

Then, I said: But, how could there be something wrong with me when actual spaceships and UFOs appear on my command and let me film them, and I can show you the footage.

He waved his hands as if it was not possible for it to happen.

And, then he said you may think you filmed something, but you did not film anything.

I said: What!

How can I be mentally ill when the voice I hear, that calls itself YAHWEH, proves it exist to me above any shadow of a doubt?

How can I be mentally ill when the voice I hear, that calls itself YAHWEH, sends UFOs and spaceships on my signal?

You may not understand what is happening with me but how can I be mentally ill?

I am not mentally ill!

And, he said: You may not believe that you are mentally ill, but you are mentally ill.

I said no more.

And, he declared me as mentally ill by the power invested in him by the state of California.

The deep thing about it is that he declared me mentally ill with in a few minutes of talking to me.

I think it was no more than about 10 minutes of talking with me.

To make a long story short, I was declared mentally ill from that day on and currently I am a client at Los Angeles County Department of Mental Health at their Mental Health Authority called "The Village."

Also, I have been given geodon, lithium, risperdal and a couple of other medications to stop me from hearing the Voice that calls itself YAHWEH.

Here is the link to their site:

www.village-isa.org...

The psychiatrist I have now is not the person I was speaking about.

My current psychiatrist, at "The Village" is Doctor Mark Ragin.

Now, that I have made this known to you in Part 1, I will let you know the conclusion in Part 2 as soon as I can.

The reason why I decided to tell you all this is because so many of you are writing me calling me crazy that I decided that if I let you know that I am crazy, only according to the State of California, maybe you all will feel better and say - now it makes sense.

Sincerely,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh



posted on Jun, 11 2005 @ 06:08 PM
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Profit Yahweh really is mentally ill.

It's his handlers who are the brains of the scam, and release balloons to make poor PY think that Yahweh is really talking to him.

And I bet those """charities""" which receive his money are somehow affiliated with the balloon launchers.



posted on Jun, 11 2005 @ 06:42 PM
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Prophet Motive


Originally posted by mbkennel
It's his handlers who are the brains of the scam, and release balloons to make poor PY think that Yahweh is really talking to him.

You may be on to something, and PY may be an unwitting "horse" for some clever scamsters, but I'm still skeptical of PY himself.

PY may indeed be mentally ill, but I don't think he is as gullible as he lets on.

Meanwhile, the plot thickens.

I recommend getting a fresh bucket of popcorm handy, because this show is far from over.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 12:02 AM
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Group Dynamic

Because the ProphetYahweh.com site has been “sabotaged”, PY has set up a group on Yahoo people can join: pyah (www.pyah.tv).

A sample of what awaits:


From pyah:
Join this group now and see all my free UFO videos. Listen to my mp3 teachings, and see where UFOs and Spaceships are at in the bible.

Also, I teach all members how to summon UFOs and Spaceships, on-demand, like I do. This is based on the strict principles for summoning in the Old Testament of the bible.

The first rule to summoning, on-demand, is that an initiate must study my teachings to become a master of the name YAHWEH, His covenant, His character, His laws and His worship.

Secondly, eventually, the initiate must abandon all of the world's religions, swear an oath of allegiance to YAHWEH and the other space beings, and become a member of the family of YAHWEH on this planet.

The more I look at this case, the more I wonder if PY wasn't, in fact, taken for a ride by some clever scamsters, and oblivious to the ruse.

Man, if that's what's going on, I really feel sorry for the guy.

This is a really hard call to make, but I find myself more and more coming to suspect that he really does think he can summon UFOs.

Which, of course, leads me to wonder who's been playing him all this time -- if that is indeed what is going on.

Media Blatz

I couldn't resist, and joined PY's group. Here's the text of his latest message:



From: Prophet Yahweh
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:12 pm
Subject: Breaking UFO News: My New Summoning Strategy

Dear List,

I have been waiting on television stations to give me a chance, but it is clear that I am being ignored by them.

Today is June 12th and I have 33 days to go.

It's been 17 days since I made history as the first man to call down UFOs for TV stations to film.

At first, YAHWEH had me to announce that I am summoning only for the media.

The general media failed me, especially newspapers.

Then, I was told to open up to television stations only, and they have failed me.

While trying to deal with both of these media entities, it was under these conditions.

1. I was supposed to summon only for the media and not independent video crews.

2. I was to be ready to go, in a moment's notice, where they wanted me to go and meet them.

I have wasted enough time dealing with the media, especially television stations, according to those conditions.

Now that all the media has clearly refused to cover me, I must proceed forward under new conditions I have been shown.

These are those conditions:

1. I will summon on my summoning property only and no longer be on call to go to any part of the city.

2. I will organize a select group of independent camera crews, who have contacted me, to document my summonings.

3. I will not contact the media and television stations any more. However, if a television station contacts me, they are welcome to come fit themselves in with what is already happening. But, they will not have priority status. And, I will not contact them anymore, unless they contact me.

This is all the information I have for you now.

Every thing is looking good.

All this happened so that I, and all of you, could see how the media is towards this type of topic.

I have a couple of camera crews that are willing to show up and document me.

I will let you know more about the developments from now on.

Let the media ignore me all they want, but YAHWEH shall bring them out of their little buildings with the force of the sightings of UFOs and spaceships that will appear in the skies over me on my signal.

Yours In The Sightings Of YAHWEH,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh

Looks like the media hasn't exactly been swarming all over PY.

So now it's going to be “home games” for UFO summonings.

Meanwhile, as far as I know, the skies over Las Vegas haven't exactly been crowded with UFOs.

Is PY being “suppressed”?



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 11:51 AM
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sounds now, like this is all part of the plan. It was a great statement to make that he would summon UFO's for all the media. meanwhile, he knew that no media station is going to take him seriously, because let's be honest, would you spend $5000 sending a camera crew and cast all the way to Las Vegas for some person who says he can summon UFO's? no, doubt it.
Besides, in his knowledge of this, his "conditions changed" meaning now he decides where and when. and with his own camera crews. bit conincidential isn't it? he claims he'll summon anywhere and anytime for the media. they don't listen (obviously) and then he decides where and when.
This says scam to me, but i like this topic, so i'm following it up anyway, because to be honest, i want this guy to be telling the truth, but he's not going to be changing the world now, he'll just be another guy with a camera crew filming UFO's. bit like Stephen Spielberg



posted on Jun, 15 2005 @ 10:50 AM
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Dear List,

Starting today, I will gather everything I have on how to summon sightings of UFOs and where I learned it according to the bible.

Once I have gotten it together, I will send a copy to someone I promised to send it to first and not longer thereafter, I will make it known to the group.

I have made it known that anyone can summon just by following my example.

You may see one or two or a few more, over a period of time, but no one is going to summond on-demand, consistently, like I do, unless they know the rules to doing it.

I will post the rules and the examples of where prophet's and holy men called down spaceships in the bible.

It will not take long before I send the rules for summoning to you.

Give me about a week.

Sincerely,

PY



posted on Jun, 15 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Viendin
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You'd think he'd just call down UFO's 2-3 times a day every day for this whole month, and give people a report of what's been happening.


Best and most important point ..

If the guy were legit he would do it daily(at will) instead of giving a 45 day window in which he can perform his 'slight of hand' trickery ...

In the scriptures the aliens traveled daily (and nightly) in front of the escapees ... Even tossing down manna for consumption.
I might add it took the escapees 39 years to travel a 9 day journey,
What does that say for these supposed "gods" ..?

If 9 days equate to 39 years what should 45 days equate to? lmao

We will not be witness to anything between now and July 15th ... Slow your roll and stop wasting paper on this crapola!

P/s- BTW,
I am a firm believer Yahweh is a conjured up spirit, a blood thristy one at that. I am just not silly enuff to believe this guys hype.


~peace



posted on Jun, 15 2005 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Shadoefax
It seems that the Prophet is getting some major funding. Doesn't look like he is going away any time soon. I wonder who is backing him ... a movie studio maybe? (War of the Worlds premiers on the 29th of this month.) This is a copy of his newest newsletter. Notice the "new math" he uses.


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From: "Prophet Yahweh"
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:07 pm
Subject: Breaking UFO News: I Have Been Given $750,000!



Dear List,


You will not believe what has happened!


The most holy and wonderful YAHWEH has arranged for me to receive
$750,000 out of the clear blue sky!


YAHWEH has moved some one to have compassion on me and save me from
my utter desperation concerning YAHWEH business.


Do you have any idea of what this means?!


The deep part of this is that whoever is doing this has given us an
immediate payment of $5,000 and says that the rest of the money,
$749,995 will be give to me as quick as within a week!


If I did not know any better, the most merciful YAHWEH has moved
someone, with the ability to arrange to for us to receive the money,
to make sure we got it.


Maybe it was someone who knew that if they did so, I would take all
the money, donate it to YAHWEH, and use it to blow His Media-Only
summonings into a full scale international movement.


Tomorrow, I will start telling you the details.


But, it appears that I have been given a quarter million dollars!


And, what makes me believe it is that we already have the immediate
$5,000 payment.


So, if $5,000 can appear out of no where, why can't another $749,995
appear the same way?!


To the benevolent YAHWEH I say, I know that you know that you have
just financed the explosion of your presence and your truth into the
souls of all humanity.


And, I thank you for it.


Bless you oh YAHWEH!


Blessed be your holy and magnificent name.


And, to the person who made sure I got that money, I say, thank you,
and I will not let you down in this matter.


That money will be deposited into a non-profit tax exempt account
for the purpose of underwriting my Media-Only Summonings and
launching the most stunning feeding and anti-hunger operation ever
to surface in America.


Sincerely,


Prophet Yahweh


Like I said Yahweh dropped manna from heaven to feeed his followers ....

Why not get them to do this to the Worlds hungry and save the loot?

This guy is a nutjob and anyone who buys into it is a nutjob wannabee at best ,,, Nephilim bait at worst ...



~peace



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:09 PM
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Also posted in other thread:

Here's the latest video, taped last friday: www.bloginservice.com...

He tries to make it look like the balloon is moving around the sky very fast in an erratic fashion, but it is obvious that he is just shaking the camera. That is why he never does it when there are clouds, if the balloon was in near the clouds, you would see the clouds moving WITH the balloon!



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Shadoefax
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From: "Prophet Yahweh"
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:07 pm
Subject: Breaking UFO News: I Have Been Given $750,000!

...

The most holy and wonderful YAHWEH has arranged for me to receive
$750,000 out of the clear blue sky!

...

But, it appears that I have been given a quarter million dollars!


You know, maybe he was just excited or whatever, but I really thought a quarter mil was $250K...Did I miss a memo or something?



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:44 PM
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After viewing several of the "summoning" videos (including the video in which the "prophet" studies his left wrist (watch?) for several seconds before starting the summoning) I have grave doubts as to the prophet's stated abilities.

It would be interesting if someone familiar with the locations shown on the videos could use the local landmarks to draw lines of sight on a map of the area.

I wonder what might lie at the location where the various lines intersect?

If anyone conducts this experiment, please post your results.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:06 PM
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I did that in one of the other threads about the subject.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 05:55 PM
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It's official...Prophet Yahoo hates homosexuals.


Dear List,

I want all homosexuals or homosexual sypathizers or advocates, on my list, who are not willing to consider the truth - that homosexuality is a form of self induced mental derangement caused by a person having been deceived into thinking it's an acceptable lifestyle, especially to the Creator, to please unsubscribe immediately.

Here is the unsubscribe link to send a blank email to:

pyufos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

I was contacted by a deceived homosexual or homosexual symphathizer or what ever she is, in defense of the sickness of homosexuality.

Here is what she said:

..................................................................................

Due to the content of this email..and your opinions on
the subject of homosexuality..your comments are
completely absurd, ignorant and are not open to any
possibility that GOD created homosexuality as a
changes in DNA as a way to deal with overpopulation.
There are documented instances, by creatures in
nature, that do perform homosexuality and your
ignorant comments below have completely turned me off.

Did it ever occur to you that if God created
everything..he created ways of "evening" things out or
balancing in nature. Don't you think it's possible
that nature is trying to tell us something about over
population??? Hmm?

Ignorance is not bliss. It makes the world OPPOSITE of
bliss. It's downright embarrassing to be associated
with others who do not educate themselves on the
workings of the universe or who continue to not keep
an open mind that the universe is full of
probabilities. There are no absolutes...energy is
always changing.

Maybe those little voices are really a trick from the
Devil..think hard now.

Please remove me from your list.

.................................................................................

Here is my response to her

.................................................................................

Hi,

You sound like a fool!

The Creator despises nasty homosexual and lesbians for the sickening acts they perform with each other.

It's not a DNA thing.

It's a mental illness thing cause by self deception.

The Creator never created a fag or a dike!

And, if you think so, get off my list!

You can do so by sending an blank email to:

pyufos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Please do it now!

Sincerely,

PY

.................................................................................

As I said, I want all homosexuals or homosexual sypathizers or advocates, on my list, who are not willing to consider the truth - that homosexuality is a form of self induced mental derangement caused by a person having been deceived into thinking it's an acceptable lifestyle, especially to the Creator, to please unsubscribe immediately.

Once again, here is the unsubscribe link to send a blank email to:

pyufos-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

Sincerely Yours In The Defense Of The Family,

Prophet Yahweh
Seer of Yahweh

...........................................
the end

[edit on 16-6-2005 by Wenty]



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