Rendlesham Forest 1980 Pt II - Will There Be An Answer?

a reply to: mirageman

It's all very interesting and a few of us have brought this subject up before. The document from 1979 seems to be 'missing' from what I can see. You don't happen to have a reliable source for it do you?

If you mean the one for 1978, I thought I shared the link. I did not. My apologies. Word blind.

It is a free E-Book from the following link...

books.google.co.uk... PXev-qk2J&sig=H1vF4vhRjuY66GwcoLyHdhcpDxs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiT1IakgtTeAhXtpIsKHV4OBmIQ6AEwA3oECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=LESL%20Law%20Enforcement%20Standa rds%20Laboratory%20BEHAVIOURAL%20SCIENCES&f=false

I am still reading and taking notes. I have more to go through.

a reply to: mirageman

The only thing I would say is that any such form of technology has still not been implemented beyond research stages some 38 years later. They appear to still be working it all out now. So how do you explain that apparent problem?

From what I am reading, this did not seem an issue in the late 1970's and early 1980's.

Then I don't suppose you know until it is tested in a real environment?

To note, one reason in what I am reading is a global problem of intrusion to Nuclear bases/sites/power stations by terrorists trying to acquire fissile material. The smaller the type of 'containers' for such materials would be more favourable to any terrorist wanting to acquire such material.

The testing seems to be for future training methods that would reduce stress but at the same time increase increase alertness/awareness to any potential threat, including being able to spot someone working for the terrorists on the inside, more favourably.

Or using statistical analysis of personnel in a unexpected situation to improve security methods and procedures.

a reply to: AdamE

No my friend. I probably phrased that badly.

What I meant was that those "Proceedings of the Symposium on the Role of Behavioral Science in Physical Security" seem to all be available. The exception is the 4th Symposium document from 1979. The one in between the 1978 one you've quoted from and the 1980 Symposium that Sacha's research was based on.

Maybe you don't find anything odd about that? But 1979 is the year John Burroughs was first stationed at Bentwaters.

Try looking for it yourself

originally posted by: mirageman

The only thing I would say is that any such form of technology has still not been implemented beyond research stages some 38 years later. They appear to still be working it all out now.

So how do you explain that apparent problem?

The right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing for one. Although I might be a little confused here as to the question.

a reply to: mirageman

Who gave Sacha the documents?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Why don't you enlighten us once with a straight answer.

a reply to: mirageman

If I knew I would not ask that question.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

whoa whoa guys

lets get back to time traveling humans/ets/experimental drones/testing of comm systems on said experimental aircraft.



in the first thread we were talking about microtubules an if the brain could be influenced by EM voodoo. the stuff in that paper is basically a wireless heart reader and bioelectric field scanners(SQUIBS). if you know your guard is sleeping because of the electrical activity in his body you could call him or whatever punishment would come his way. definitely not groundbreaking stuff.


i would be interested in the one airman's medical records that were classified, it would undoubtedly shed more light on what happened.

my guess is they got to close to a communications test with secret aircraft and something went awry, if enough power/energy was being pumped in a pulsed transmission it could case ionizing radiation to form for spalling effects, or it was a test of a weapon system that was a little to strong and obviously did lasting damages and even a death(delayed but still linked).

a congressmen had to get involved in getting the medical records and maybe someone else took up the fight for the airmen that were used and abused.

clinton apologize for radiation experimentation as well as MK ultra so it wouldn't be surprising if some of those records are still classified and the dead airmen medical records could have linked him to ilist human testing before they were officially acknowledged

a reply to: penroc3

I think Mirageman would crack under the strain. I mean re time travelling humans/ets etc.

The rest is up for debate of course.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: AdamE

No my friend. I probably phrased that badly.

What I meant was that those "Proceedings of the Symposium on the Role of Behavioral Science in Physical Security" seem to all be available. The exception is the 4th Symposium document from 1979. The one in between the 1978 one you've quoted from and the 1980 Symposium that Sacha's research was based on.

Maybe you don't find anything odd about that? But 1979 is the year John Burroughs was first stationed at Bentwaters.

Try looking for it yourself

Thanks for clarifying mirageman and also for the tip for the 1979 version. If it is missing, it may be on the classified list, along with John Burroughs medical records, but one can try.

I will also will be taking and sharing some notes from the 2 links when I get time. With the recent revelations regarding Larry, along with the suggestions made here regarding Binary, the 2 links I provided need to be read thoroughly again by anyone that wants to comment further.

It maybe easier for me as a fresh pair of eyes, if as you say, the papers have already been discussed in the past? I will do what I can to show you where my thoughts lie.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: mirageman

If I knew I would not ask that question.

Your question being...

Who gave Sacha the documents?

The .s] I found is 244 pages long (each) and I have read it fully three times and parts over and over... I know what happened and have found as many other bits of documentation, including patents to back most of it up, no I haven't selectively chosen to make facts fit, there's just so much of it, I'm overwhelmed. Thirty years has been spent chasing ghosts, a few more collating the exact info from now on will be a challenge I know a lot of people will relish. There are ten documents in total... Number four which covers 1980 is unavailable, simply because they do not know where it is. They (foi) can only find references to it on the internet.

sacha-christie-infomaniachousewife.blogspot.com... ejhV64UIWkmU

So why do you ask

Who gave Sacha the documents?

Seems she found them, like I?

a reply to: AdamE

Ergh is there a problem asking a simple question?
I dont follow much re Sacha but know how quick Alexander and co responded as I saw at the time. Its on the mens formal web site.

www.therendleshamforestincident.com...

a reply to: ctj83

Then there is a simple question of why TTSA is focussed on the RFI, how they could have the alleged materials, and why people are under NDA? 

I guess in 4 months time the public will get to know more? As they say patience is a virtue.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Cauliflower

www.theatlantic.com...

ATS has a pretty strict policy concerning Walnut sauce and Pizza gate, Bull fighting gets boring real fast as well but might be a tool useful for TTSA. Thanks for the link.

a reply to: penroc3

interesting... I have postulated such theories before, in regards to it being a test etc and the effects that have been caused.I also wonder if any of them had "electromagnetic hypersensitivity"?

I know John has mentioned, when he got his VA cover and what came after, that only certain doctors were allowed to view his records when it came to diagnosis and further treatment. Maybe its not necessarily his records that are classified, but information contained on them that's linked to other similar cases and injuries in very similar circumstances or something MK Ultra / UAP related that IS classified. Potentially where the outcome for those linked patients where they ended up dying as a result of similar injuries. Maybe the "longer than usual exposure to UAP radiation" is related to these other cases....

Maybe these linked medical records and what they learned from these people dying, is the reason only certain doctors are allowed to view Johns records...it might be a case of.. "We know what went wrong with this other guy, so we know how to help this one that survived"

We have to remember that as they are classified, only a doctor with the sufficient clearance would be able to view them..

Just thinking outloud...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I've heard rumors floating around regarding the "analysis" of the Rendlesham samples and their conclusions...
"Extremely high % of certain metals (aluminium) that don't make any sense..in terms of what they are used for on earth...."

a reply to: pigsy2400

I know John has mentioned, when he got his VA cover and what came after, that only certain doctors were allowed to view his records when it came to diagnosis and further treatment. Maybe its not necessarily his records that are classified, but information contained on them that's linked to other similar cases and injuries in very similar circumstances

That has been confirmed here on ATS by Kit Green who was involved in John's diagnosis.

"inside the doctors notes, the nursing notes, the specialist's note are a myriad of references to Special Access Projects and the names of OTHER "adjacent and ancillary Programs and projects that can not be disentangled, and which could uncover active and recent projects unrelated to Rendlesham. The reasons are not necessarily related to Rendlesham...and not all the connections relate to Rendlesham."

See original post : www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: pigsy2400

The contract for testing those 'metals' was awarded by TTSA (whose Vice President happens to be former $cientologist Hal Puthoff). The winner of the contract was a company called EarthTech International (whose President & CEO, is the very same former $cientologist - Hal Puthoff).

Given that it is almost 38 years since the RFI I would like to know the provenance of any material that has been tested. Maybe it fell off the back of a TARDIS?

I also would not take anything EarthTech say without a further independent test by a reputable third party. I see massive conflict of interest here. Even if the material is tested and they say it's a lump of useless slag then EarthTech earn $35,000. All the work was due to be completed by October 25, 2018 by the way.

See : TTSA Financial Filings

So I guess that means a new video announcing the results coming soon....or later. Depends on the plan.

a reply to: mirageman

apologies for my brain fart...

Yes I had seen this before...with there being so many pages of material, noise and everything else.. sometimes I have to forget old things so I can remember new things lol