Tom DeLonge Anouncement: October 11th 9:00 AM PST/12:00 PM EST

Wow, some good ideas regarding AMA's! U gize r smurt!

originally posted by: mirageman

originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: dan121212

Have you experienced UFO's up close and had messaging from said object? Unless you're James Pennistan I think I have an advantage over you, yes.

Your spelling is a bit off and I have serious doubts about Mr.Heavycock getting up close to anything and receiving a message from an object on Boxing Day 1980 for reasons that are detailed elsewhere on ATS.

However then a light went on.

OOoh?

How little you know. And his name is James Penniston and not "Mr.Heavycock". Are you like 8 years old?

a reply to: thepixelpusher

How little you know. And his name is James Penniston and not "Mr.Heavycock". Are you like 8 years old?

Ok...That was just a silly joke because of the lighthouse in the TTS presentation. But Penniston almost certainly didn't touch a spaceship. Link 1 , Link 2, Link 3. That's the little I know about that case. If you really want to argue that he did then I suggest you continue the debate in one of those threads. Let's just leave it that.

Moving on..........

a reply to: mirageman

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the only message he would have gotten would be to back up and get your CO. i'm 90% sure it was either a drone or it had a very human pilot.

hey saw the opening to make cash and he took it, he did get famous and just that is enough for some.

Hopefully this won't turn into trying to sell us super vitamins like C2C does now.

That pharmacy doc they teamed up with, ruins the show whenever it's talked about, and the prepper food stuff too.

I understand marketing and making revenue to cover costs, but do so with your users in mind and not their pocketbooks only. Understand your users and come up with new and creative means to do what needs to be done, while also giving your users the content they want.

It can be done, and the owner of the secret sauce will be able to grab the traffic from wherever they want.

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Mr. Delonge if not mistaken, is now a content marketer, it's why we find more promotional messages rather than solution, facts or meat.

fact of the matter is, don't say more than you can explain, and don't keep saying disclosure without disclosing anything.

This isn't a PAY TO PLAY field, Facts or GTFO

originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined

Mr. Delonge if not mistaken, is now a content marketer, it's why we find more promotional messages rather than solution, facts or meat.

fact of the matter is, don't say more than you can explain, and don't keep saying disclosure without disclosing anything.

This isn't a PAY TO PLAY field, Facts or GTFO

Precisely...

Sorry to cross-post from a Greer thread, but the same is relevant here:

a reply to: thepixelpusher

"I hope Tom DeLonge doesn't turn in to another Greer. "

That metamorphosis of may already be under way...

I'd still prefer he was 'The Real Deal", and follows through. Sekret Machines has some intriguing tidbits, and somebody went through a lot of heavy thinking and introspection to say the right thing at the right time in the right way (Hartley).

The uncomfortable irritant in all this, and the similarities between Greer and others (among as many differentiate variables) is that a pattern is developing:
1. make money doing something else so you don't have to worry about eating/expenses
2. cultivate a personal interest/hobby in the UFO/ET enigma - get absorbed in the topic
3. use your money/influence/contacts to pry a little more info out of the 'inside'
4. develop a plan to "reveal" your 'special knowledge' to the world
5. realize that there is big money to be made in making the 'Truth Be Known" (as you've interpreted it).
6. formulate a plan to reveal your truth (and then some)
7. execute a continuous series of teaser revelations and lots of promises for "Big News".
8. announce that this "Big News" must be revealed in a very special way - and that costs money -lots of it.
9. formally and humbly ask an eager, hungry, enthusiastic public to help finance the revelation
10. continue promising the "Big News" to come in the future, perpetuating the cycle

I'd love to give TDL the benefit-of-the-doubt. He sounds sincere in his own beliefs, and at least he is increasing awareness of the topic. We should consider him a contributor for that at least.

But WHEN are we going to actually hear the "Big News"? When he reaches a certain threshold of $? And the money we're sending him will be used for what? To make a Star Trek movie? And maybe a real Starship? Do we get to see anything else - like some irrefutable proof? Isn't that what Greer promised as well?

How is it that all these know-it-all pundits, researchers, authors, movie-makers, rock-stars, etc., are forever telling us they have the "truth" - but somehow the rest of us never get to see it for ourselves? They have "inside contacts", exclusive information, top secret confessions, etc. - but it remains just an endless stream of more out-of-focus 'objects', always completely unidentifiable, lots of questionable documents from undercover gubbmint agencies, and 3rd-hand hearsay testimony, none of which can be corroborated.

How and when do we actually get the proof we are promised?

Send more money, I guess.

If TDL considers this kind of skepticism "bullying", perhaps he might consider coming on board with just a little bit of tangible evidence. I'd settle for a CLEAR, IN-FOCUS photograph. Not a little fuzzy dot off in the horizon - a CLOSE-UP of a ship, an EBE, ANYTHING that can be discerned.

After 70 years (since Roswell), and especially now that nearly every man woman and child is carrying a powerful camera in their pocket - we STILL can't get a single close-in shot of anything?

Tom, a favor please: Show us something, anything (and no, not that single grainy, white "Stay-Puff Marshmallow Ship" thing at your ToTheStars debut). Something in focus, within a few meters of the picture-taker, and something we've never seen before. Even THAT will not be proof - but it would be way better than what we've gotten from any of the showmen that are on the UFO circuit today. Trust me, the money would be pouring in if folks actually believe you have the goods...

As of this moment the "Academy" is up to ~$475,000. That will buy a nice Lamborghini - but not a Star Ship. You might make a decent little documentary or even a short story movie - but not a blockbuster. And neither one of those is "Disclosure". How about giving us the Disclosure part FIRST - then we'll see about a movie and some space ship money, hmmm?

Thanks, Tom - for igniting the conversation further, however.

a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

has he ever claimed that disclosure was imminent?
that he holds the keys to the castle?

I haven’t seen anything like that.

the tech he wants to usher in, he doesn’t have, but the military does.

throwing back to my post a few pages ago, look at touchscreens. invented by the military 60 years prior to its release to the public. the military doesn’t want you to have cutting edge technology, if you have it, the enemy has it.

it took a, for profit, company to put this antiquated technology in your hands.

he wants the world to have the technology he’s heard about or seen on video. the military isn’t developing technology to better society but the technology they’re developing, can.

call me altruistic.

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you know how you don’t get arrested for treason for disclosing secrets of national defense?

you write and produce “fiction”

a reply to: Outrageo

I think the “big news” is that the technology already exists or we are getting extremely close...in the military sector, so expect to see it in 50-60 years.

what really cracks me up is all these people screaming, “aliens! aliens!” when a UAP is being escorted by two black helicopters to and from a military base.

yes... that intergalactic or inter dimensional craft really needs that escort for safety of the crew. that’s like cavemen escorting a navy seal team.

clearly it’s an black project, built without the help of aliens.

why the escort? if it crashes, the crew needs to be picked up, the other helicopter is to defend the wreckage until it can be secured. or, perhaps both run defense.

originally posted by: bluetrees
a reply to: Outrageo

I think the “big news” is that the technology already exists or we are getting extremely close...in the military sector, so expect to see it in 50-60 years.

Advances in physics in the white world are going to unlock the technology eventually. There will eventually be a need to get it out to us industry in a controlled manner before somebody else on the globe 'discovers' it and monetizes it.

originally posted by: bluetrees
a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

has he ever claimed that disclosure was imminent?
that he holds the keys to the castle?

I haven’t seen anything like that.

the tech he wants to usher in, he doesn’t have, but the military does.

throwing back to my post a few pages ago, look at touchscreens. invented by the military 60 years prior to its release to the public. the military doesn’t want you to have cutting edge technology, if you have it, the enemy has it.

it took a, for profit, company to put this antiquated technology in your hands.

he wants the world to have the technology he’s heard about or seen on video. the military isn’t developing technology to better society but the technology they’re developing, can.

call me altruistic.

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you know how you don’t get arrested for treason for disclosing secrets of national defense?

you write and produce “fiction”

Bollocks.

Nothing about touchscreens was in any way secret.

Btw the system used with the pigeons was not an actual touchscreen as we know them, but a so called pick-off display or teleautograph.

There are a large number of patents describing such systems, going back as far as 1947 (from a quick search using google):
www.google.la...

a reply to: moebius

Funny you should mention 1947 for the patent date. Do you realize what happened in 1947!?

Sort of an update in that the enigmatic Luis Elizondo has (allegedly) spoken to a guy from reddit on the phone.
www.reddit.com...

Main takeaway is the comment:

While not being able to go into too much detail, he relayed to me that in the VERY NEAR future they will be releasing credible and solid scientific data which will back up a great deal of the claims Tom and other members of the team have made about this phenomena. Text

The fact that we are now into week 2 and an alleged former DOD secret aerial threat program manager and key TTS team member is using Reddit for promotion is noteworthy.

All this thing needs is some data and credible evidence (if credentials are to believed) so the continuing omission thereof is an issue when balanced against past promises.

I think mr delonge has blown a few bs detectors lately .

I actually thought this might be the 1 , but hey there has been a lot of those and I think he is just damaging ufology and just stripping the subject to the point where it becomes laughable again , which took so long to get away from .


So if you read this tom , put up or shut up and you owe me a new bs detector !

Very interesting update: On money. And, yes, this is about over-unity free energy. And a spaceship in 10 years.
Tom DeLonge is getting out on a limb here. Either he is forced to lie against his will, he is naive and has swallowed the lies of others, or - most shocking for the majority of people - this stuff IS for real. Wait and see.

I thought someone might have made the connection long before now.

Anyone else wondering?

originally posted by: SacredLore
Very interesting update: On money. And, yes, this is about over-unity free energy. And a spaceship in 10 years.
Tom DeLonge is getting out on a limb here. Either he is forced to lie against his will, he is naive and has swallowed the lies of others, or - most shocking for the majority of people - this stuff IS for real. Wait and see.

As I’ve said before , I want to believe! BUT.....

What Delonge is talking of is a research, development, and production/construction project that rivals CERN’s Large hadron Collider (LHC)

The LHC took approximately 10 years to build
Cost exceeding $9 billion US just for construction
It’s annual expenditures are funded by its 22 nation members (Germany, Spain, France etc.) running in the millions annually.
CERN has a staff of over 2500 scientists, researchers, engineers, administrators and support staff( depending on activity) .

Delonge’s Machine that 1) creates free energy 2) provides faster than light travel 3) and desalination of sea water

With 1 aerospace engineer and 1 physicist

Good luck!

a reply to: mirageman

Hoooooooooly crap, Scientology is throwing a Hail Mary?!

Omg nothing would make me happier.

a reply to: Paddyofurniture

He throws out a wild guess of "1 billion" to build the spaceship and adds "... along the way different agencies and institutions of the government help pay for that ...".

In the best case this could be the "shadow government"/"cabal"/"illuminati"/"banksters"/"freemasons"/"expensive mansions"/"demons"/"reptilians"/"commies"/"Nazis/"sphere-earthers"/"hippies"/"Hillarians"/"Trumpistas"/"legally elected US government" (pick one that fits your view of the world) coming clean by releasing technology they already have to the public through this channel. It may or may not be done voluntarily. In that case they would only have to pretend to do all the research, it is 'just" the manufacturing.

Discussing the more sinister scenarios would be worth of its own thread. But a simple money scam is the most unlikely explanation in my opinion (but it might be a desirable side-effect).

I don't know what the truth is. I invested and that was simply a leap of faith. Faith in the good in man. On the other hand, the allocation was limited strictly to "high-risk" investment.