About the Vegas Killer... newest info

originally posted by: audubon
a reply to: MotherMayEye

If the gun control plotters are planning to use a mass shooting as a coup de theatre to introduce their clampdown, they have to be the least competent conspirators in the history of mankind. How many more opportunities are they going to pass on, before they decide to spring their trap?

Only slightly tongue-in-cheek.

I think you have a point in that the gun control proponents are simply keeping their 'ball in play' until such time as the moral climate is deemed to have changed sufficiently for the public to accept the idea. That change in climate isn't going to appear within the current paradigm, it would take something extraordinary to produce it - and sadly, mass shootings are not extraordinary in the US.

But personally, I don't see that the gun control lobby's day will ever come, because it's so fundamental to US society that it will remain a hot button topic till the end of the USA itself. The US without guns would be like Russia without alcoholism - as in, not possible.

I am not married to the idea that gun control is a major or singular motive behind mass-shooting false flags. But I think it's *some* motive and history will prove it.

This is turning out to be a joke page. I have nothing more to say..... Good Luck With Your stuff....

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Willtell

Ha....honestly, I think *they* would make sure of it, regardless of what we do or don't do.

No matter what, I think it's already been written into U.S.history that " America didn't listen, didn't learn, didn't change," until 'X' mass-killing FINALLY forced us to 'take gun control legislation seriously.' And then Congress set to work, like hero-angels, to make sure they 'answered our call....our outcry!!!!'

Or something like that. And I think it's only one small motive in a sea of other motives.

Now please I don’t want to derail this great thread on a gun dispute

BUT…

I can’t think of any super event that would change the minds of these gun freaks.

Their so deluded that they derive some kind of security form them I can't imagine what would spend that delusion

I think the reason for this is some higher groups are trying to persuade that

“You see they’ll Never LEARN”


So…

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Willtell

Ha....honestly, I think *they* would make sure of it, regardless of what we do or don't do.

No matter what, I think it's already been written into U.S.history that " America didn't listen, didn't learn, didn't change," until 'X' mass-killing FINALLY forced us to 'take gun control legislation seriously.' And then Congress set to work, like hero-angels, to make sure they 'answered our call....our outcry!!!!'

Or something like that. And I think it's only one small motive in a sea of other motives.

Now please I don’t want to derail this great thread on a gun dispute

I don't either...and it's all speculation of what may or may not happen...I may totally be wrong. (or right.)



(Chances are that I will be wrong though.)

Nothing wrong getting into what we think is the motive behind this FF

Some general points...

I think, these operations started with 911.

And portend very, very bad things for us.

By default civilizations are evolving to tyranny because of deep philosophical reasons we cant go into here…

In today’s world psychological control is as important as physical control--they go hand in hand

And were dealing with some cabals version of controlling the world

I think the debate turns on the question of; can people in possession of advanced weapons behave in a civilized manner?

History says....not really. The American Revolution is a single example, it maybe shouldn't be cited in every instance.

On the other hand, a picture is worth a thousand words...





This is just to take the "Control" side of the argument, I already know what freedom-loving ATS members think.

Also, personally I wonder if millions of weapons in millions of hands is the perfect model for humanity. I mean, you gotta ask the question.

Is this where civilization goes, personal security at the end of a muzzle? Everyone living a gunshot away from death by any arbitrary gun owner who gets offended, or technically, thinks their life is in danger.

Here's an irony, having guns available to the public requires a lot of laws and regulations....exactly what these people are against.

Look at the DC Snipers, didn't they use a bolt-action rifle, with advanced techniques?

How do you stop that, in future scenarios, when it's teams working together?

End Game - what is it?
Given what's come out I think we have 3 major themes going:

The idea that Paddock managed to "sneak" all those guns in to a hotel.
1) Obviously we need backscatter machines and metal detectors everywhere so people can't bring guns places they aren't supposed to. Michael Chertoff and OSI stand to make billions from this.
2) The other thing is the obvious lying by the FBI and LVPD - how many story changes (shades of sandy hook) can they get away with people still believe or get to the point of not caring, either way they win.
3) This is a psychological experiment on how people will react under simulated gunfire only to find no safety with "shootings" supposedly going on at every other hotel on the strip. How easily can these people be controlled, funneled in to certain pathways, be made to go where told, etc. If people can be manipulated by the thousands simply from perceived gunfire what if the technology to make sound appear inside our heads isn't ready to be rolled out?

Gun control - won't happen unless on a state or local level.
I doubt it was the main purpose at any rate.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

My God man what you say, I believe but its so f____ing horrible. To think of all these innocent people being slaughtered for some sick sinister reason is…there’s no word for it.

I agree mostly this is for the excuse to implement the surveillance state

However, why is the question?

911 was for immediate wars--but the surveillance state is a long range deal

a reply to: Willtell

I agree mostly this is for the excuse to implement the surveillance state

It's just privatisation. The privatisation of your personal space. There is money to be made from it, therefore it will happen naturally within a capitalist society. You'll have noticed the rise of 'augmented reality'. It's the same deal - creating a saleable overlay for a given individual's environment.

a reply to: Willtell

The "Voice of God" technology is there, some say they used it in Iraq.
The supposed 5G network upgrade has been purported to be the implementation on a mass scale of this and other electro-magnetic/scalar wave technology placed in towers across the entire United States.
If this is mind control being tested then we're not far from it's implementation on a nation-wide scale.
Note that the US is the only major country in the world where firearms are included in it's Constitution.
Who needs laws if you can directly manipulate the minds of the public?

a reply to: Asktheanimals


Fine, but Its hard to grasp what their doing long term, unless included is some bizarre version of the occult illuminati running the show.

Again, 911 is understood: war in the ME. We got that.


But, I tell you, it’s just got to be something deeper under this for them to be murdering innocents

Like sacrifices or something.

a reply to: audubon

Maybe. However, what 911 showed us is that they do things like this and derive various benefits for many factions

Like, riding on 911 was a humongous insurance swindle through the taking down of building 7

I mean, the generals got their war...

The MIC got their vast business increased...

Israel got their enemies screwed

The security firms got their piece of the pie

And I’m sure other benefits to other cabals we don’t even know or see

So does it all boil down to business? Maybe.

Though, I think there is some occult reality behind this as well

And that's a long story for another long thread

Hey all --

I just posted a new thread regarding multiple shooters:

Vegas: Multiple Survivors/Eyewitness Tell of Multiple Shooters at Multiple Casinos

Not to replace this awesome thread... but to supplement it. I hope we can keep both going. And make the new one as amazing as this one.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Each mass shooting generates HUGE profits for certain wall street traders, gun maufacturers and the likes.

Something I thought I might share just now also. Paddock had several properties in Mesquite, Texas. His mother lived there.

A short way away across town lived a certain Micah Johnson of Dallas infamy. Every Mesquite resident interview I have read today are displays of shock. 'A mass shooter..right here..we can't believe it. 'It has come as a total shock' like everyone has forgotten a year ago another resident was involved in a similar incident. Right down to the initial reports of several shooters. Elevated firing points. Pictures of the dead shooter and his weapons being leaked. (Did the internal investigation ever come up with a name for the leak? Will this latest one?) I would be VERY surprised if there isn't a trail of bread crumbs that can be followed from either end that links the two but I don't have the time or patience to go looking. At least not for a while anyway. If anyone does have the time gun stores and ranges local to the area might be a stone worth turning over. Two men with such an interest in firearms living twenty minutes from each other. Quite the coincidence.

originally posted by: sg1642
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Each mass shooting generates HUGE profits for certain wall street traders, gun maufacturers and the likes.

Not to mention security companies -- both machines and human guards. As well as their union...

If MY brother or MY son was being accused of such a horrendous historical event and there are MANY accounts there were MANY shooters at MANY locations, I would be screaming at the top of my lungs for answers. Why is Paddocks family not asking more questions?

NOW it all makes sense why a woman told the concert crowd, "THEY are all around". They were... shooters were everywhere.

The timeline has a lot of questions and a few I will note here. It states a man was in custody at the Motel 6. Who is/was he and why was he in custody. Is it the same guy who was in the parking lot of Motel 6 in his RV that was said to be a suspect?

It also states there was a suspect shot outside Hooters. Who was he? Still alive?

Timeline also refers to a woman saying she has a video of the "shooter'. Where is said video and why have the authorities not mentioned her having "Paddock" on video FROM THE 32nd FLOOR?? No way anyone has a video of him that far up shooting out the window. I say PROVE IT.

So many questions and no answers. This tragedy is full of holes and I'm sure the people there who stories are being dismissed has to be aggravating for them. I can't imagine a war on a strip I'm in the middle of, and no one believes me because they weren't there and believe the MSM full story over mine.

I feel for all who were involved and pray to the highest answers be given as to what REALLY happened and WHY.

a reply to: MamaJ

Do you mean you were there? I'm confused.

a reply to: sg1642

From my post, what makes you think I was there? No, I was not there.